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I am very much two-faced about grains. On the one hand, those super-smooth tones from old 4*5" films (or even larger), when the emulsion was stuffed with silver, and not a trace of grain, can be a pleasure to study for their tonal qualities alone.

Then, in significant parts of modern B&W photography, graininess is used as an artistic expression, not unlike the 'dottiness' of some impressionist painters. In journalism and sports photography, graininess and hard, 'graphics style' contrast has been a style of expression for at least 50 years. Even in some landscape photography, grains can add structure to a surface that would otherwise be boring (e.g. a misty landscape).

My photography books fill two meters of shelf space. In them, I can "in no time" find a hundred photos, from internationally recognized photographers, that would have lost some of their qualities if they were absolutely grain-less and with a smooth, 'natural' tone scale. Fair enough for 'scientific style' documentary photos, but if you want your photo to tell a story, you may need something beyond a simple and boring 'This is exactly how it looks'. It may be true, but So what?

Who said "A picture shouldn't show something, it should be something"? In the process of making it "be" something, grains can be a great tool.
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