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rnbergren22-Feb-21 4:58
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GeneralWe need user centered products Pin
honey the codewitch22-Feb-21 3:55
mvahoney the codewitch22-Feb-21 3:55 
In the 1950s in America healthcare wasn't as much about the patients as it was about the providers. The doctors didn't listen to you so much as tell you what was wrong with you - that's just how the industry was run and how providers were trained.

It took decades of industry navel gazing to move to what they now call "patient centered care" where doctors are encouraged to listen and let the patients make the primary decisions, with doctor in a supporting role rather than simply an absolute authority acting unilaterally.

It seems like software and hardware developers could take a page from that.

Windows forcing updates on you. Samsung and Apple forcing you to have all these partner products on their devices that you don't want. Basically an entire industry treating you like "Daddy knows best" and basically unconcerned about the idea of losing customers because you've insulted their intelligence and undercut their autonomy in a single stroke.

And they'll continue to do it as long as we put up with it.

I'm a software and hardware developer, so I have some amount of control over what I create, and what I'm *willing* to build. I've made the choice to not be part of the problem in this respect. I have the luxury of that choice, I understand that some people don't. I'm not judging you if you're stuck working to pay the bills for a company that treats its customer's like dirt, but to the degree that *you are able* I think it's good to avoid contributing to the attitude that users should just shut up and accept what they are handed. If my software can autoupdate, you can turn it off, for example. I have some amount of respect for the users of my creations to know what's good for them.

And maybe people have just gotten dumber and/or more pliant. Maybe that has created a responsibility vacuum that has allowed producers to just screw people every which way, not just on price anymore but on how you go about your daily routine. How much power can we exercise over your daily lives? You're not a person anymore.

I am not a number.
I am not "a consumer"

I am a human being, with my *own* drives, desires, and agendas. What I do with your device or your software is *my business*, not yours. That's why I gave you money. Not just so you'd give me the goods, but so you'd go away. I pay you to leave at least as much as I pay you to show up with the goods.
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