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GeneralDon't you just love it when companies don't quite "get" local time zones? Pin
OriginalGriff12-Jan-21 5:36
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China did switch to a singe time zone (although not UTC - there is no principal difference). I have not heard any signs of that causing havoc.

UTC does not change unit (size), just the zero point on exactly the same scale. Like going from Celsius to Kelvin - not like going to Fahrenheit.

All modern computers already handle UTC. For the great majority of them, UTC is The internal time representation; any "time zone" conversion is for external presentation only.

In several areas, UTC is in regularly use for unambiguous time references, e.g. in military operations, but also in numerous other international operations / technologies.

If everyone had breakfast at 07:00, started work at 08:00, went home at 16:00 (sorry ... 4pm) and had supper at 17:00 5pm, then having meals or working at other times would be "bizarre". But around here, craftsmen usually start work at 07:00, some at 06:00. Brits (at least office workers) tend to start work at 9am; south Europeans may have their supper at 8pm or later. Even tiny little Norway spans two full time zones: What is called 08:00 on the east coast is - by the sun - two hours earlier than 08:00 on the westernmost islands. Yet it is called the same time. This idea that supper at 5pm all over the world is some sort of 'law of nature' is nothing but a figment of some cultural imagination. It doesn't hold in little Norway. It doesn't hold within the single Central European time zone.

We are prepared: The standards for handling it are several decades old. The technological solutions are decades old. It has been in partial use for decades. Handling it mentally requires nothing but adding or subtracting a small integer.

It might be convenient if all nations went to UTC at the same time, but it isn't a requirement. Especially in North America, values shown for indicating e.g. business hours would be obvious whether given in the old base (and by am/pm) or UTC (24h clock). There is currently a discussion in EU about abandoning Daylight Savings Time: It is clear that the EU will leave the decision to each country, including whether to go for summer or winter time as their all-year time. That is considered manageable. If EU had mandated UTC as the new year round Standard European Time (not just central European), it wouldn't be significantly different.

It would require Europeans to adjust their clocks by one to three hours, a fairly small change (and, seen by sun time, within the variation we already have e.g. within Norway). The risk of confusion between old and new time would be there. For North America, the change would be larger, but hey, adding six or seven isn't that different from subtracting one or two! And: The risk of confusion between new and old is almost zero.

So I certainly do not agree with your pessimism about a worldwide change to UTC. It takes a minimum of technical changes (essentially, not reformatting time values for display!), and people would accept it just as easily as DST changes or when travelling east-west. It could even be introduced gradually, say by EU legislating that any time table, any time stamp, any sort of time reference may be given in UTC (only). If no time zone is indicated, in a legal conflict UTC is assumed. If enforced in transatlantic / international business, e.g. flight schedules always state UTC departure / arrival times, it would gradually sink in. I mean, even North Americans are capable of handling 24h time indications, aren't they? If they are mentally capable of handling that, I am 100 sure that they are capable of handling UTC as well!
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