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Can I suggest that programming as a career is not for you?

There is an expression called "time in the trenches". Basically your first jobs in IT will be copy and paste, modify existing code, and generally very little creativity.

I'm mentored several junior developers straight out of uni (and one who is currently working for me part time whilst finishing their uni degree). One of the best attributes you can have is a combination of "I'll get it done" and "Have you considered this way instead". A note on that second point, remember that you're only starting out in the industry, so the answer to "Have you considered this way instead" might actually be "no, please do it my way".

Technically creativity won't come into play for many many years. Unless you're working on your own home project, you'll no doubt have both a manager and a customer. As a junior programmer you'll be dictated to over the type of code you'll write and how it'll look. Depending on the size of the project and how complex it is there will no doubt be an architect who has already made those creative decisions for you. Keep in mind that the architect has likely spent 20 years building IT systems and knows many pitfalls that you won't, and you're unlikely to find a company that's willing to let a junior spend 6 months making a mistake on a project just so that junior can learn something.

So basically, only continue going down the path of learning how to be a software developer if you're

a. Willing to spend time doing the crap jobs
b. Understand that it'll likely be years before your full creativity will be allowed to be on display
c. Understand that the world doesn't need more "glue programmers", a deep understanding of the code will be an asset in your career.
d. You're a junior (technically not even that yet), most of what you don't know you don't even know you don't know it. Learn, even if you can't yet see why, every great software developer has been down the same path that you're going down.

Finally, if you can't accept the realities of the industry, find something else do to as a career and keep programming as a hobby on nights and weekends.

modified 22-Oct-20 21:27pm.

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