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Rich Leyshon23-Sep-20 7:17
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W Balboos, GHB23-Sep-20 6:54
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At least for this work, which was research, they had a bunch of us chemists and chemical engineers (and one physicist) evaluate the work. The points we gave for the requested criteria were the big deal to the contracting officers. They had a favorite, HP, and I wasn't going along.

The why: There proposal was very good in all aspects, except, one of the criteria was to do a literature search and then go from what is learned therein. They had that done, but when they went to the final criteria, they talked about doing the work on their own version. To me, this made the literature search superfluous and I therefore rated it poorly . . . and said why.

This was the US Dept of Energy. From my experience (a long time back), the only things where low-bid that meets all criteria is the dominant factor is more in the realm of tangible commodities, whether off the shelf or custom built.

One last thing: The expression "Close enough for government work" is true - but not at all for the reasons most people think. It had to do with a court case where the government wanted to reject the results. The company sued. Well, the judge ruled they were in "Substantial Compliance" and the government was forced to take them. That's how it came about: the private sector's the one who's doing a slap-shod job because they know the government will be stuck with it. This is stuff learned at a course I had to take since I might be called upon to be a tech representative at a contractor's site. I learned quite a few horrors that were forced upon the government by the courts. I won't enumerate them because I don't want to give anyone any ideas.



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