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Member 7989122 wrote: Now if you define a text style and apply it to the text and the newline, you are still in that style after the newline. If you apply it to the text excluding the newline, new text following the newline is not in that style. The only way see if the style is active or not, immediately following the newline, is to look at the style indications; you can't guess it from the text.
I'm afraid you're not right, there.
If the style you use moves the text into bold, the blunderbuss Bold function behind the bold button will see that it is bold, and activate.
Member 7989122 wrote: You might argue: But no text style should extend beyond a newline!
Every word processor that I have used allows you to define the style for the line following a paragraph style, e.g. for top-level heading styles you can choose to define it as the default style ("Normal", in Word) or a sub-heading style; for a bullet style, you would almost invariably define it as the same bullet style; and for a list-header style you would define it as a bulletted or numbered style, so that it automatically starts the list after the header.
Member 7989122 wrote: keyboard input, like pasting or like explicit positioning
Keyboard input inside a block of styled text will follow that style. Most word processors will maintain source styles as the default for pasting "locally", within the same document, but apply local styles for pasting from external documents. Some word processors offer options on this.
Member 7989122 wrote: What if you made a style called BoldText, made it read only, and assigned the Ctrl-B key to toggle this style on and off
I don't recall ever seeing an option to make a style read-only (although Word goes the other way, and can be allowed to automatically "update" styles -- switch that off, for sure).
One of the main points of using styles in this way is that you have complete control, so if, for example, you wanted to change all instances of bold text to blue bold text, it takes you a few seconds to change every instance in the document. If you've used the blunderbuss bold button anywhere, the text you used it on will not turn blue (but your CTRL+B, above, will), so you will have to seek them out individually, to change their colour.
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I laugh at people who want to use markdown, XML, etc. for "light" use (i.e. for less than 100,000 chunks of single-source text that need to be inserted into dozens of different documents).
PostScript is far and away the best and most usable mark-up language (markdown isn't really a real thing). I usually describe it as XML that hasn't had its balls chopped off -- but those in the know stopped using it 40 years ago, when WySiWyG editors came out, for the simple reason that mark-up languages make you spend half your time working on the infrastructure of the text, which is a HUGE distraction, when you're trying to work (imagine having to set each individual syntax-highlighting colour code for variable names, etc, when writing code, and you'll get an idea of how distracting it is).
That said, TextArea fields are adequate for things like posting messages to message boards, and don't add half an hour to page-load times; and I only ever write text for web pages in a text editor (TextPad or NotePad++).
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Now let us start a war between Postscript and TeX crusaders 
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I'm up for it! There hasn't been a one for years!
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Amen, and while you're at it, let's abandon the "command line instead of decent UIs" trend 
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I never can get used to the number of shell aficionados who insist that for automatic operations, such as cron tasks, you must have a command line interface and a script or configuration file. How could you otherwise tell what, say, the backup system should do nightly?
If you try to argue that you could select what to do in a GUI (e.g. select which directories to back up in a directory tree presentation), activate options by check boxes, radio buttons etc. with proper labeling, help functions and menu selections of previously defined plans, and have the backup application preserve that in its internal format, these shell guys gasp: But then I have no control!
Even though they (may) admit that in theory it would be possible to manage a system the way it is usually done in a Windows environment, it would not give them the necessary control. Control is that which is exercized in 7-bit ASCII input by use of command line actions.
In my archives of computer humour, there is a printout of a long discussion on NetNews (The discussion forum in the pre-web-days) from the late 1990s: This one guy who stubbornly insisted that high level languages were useless and would soon fade away. His major argument: He wanted the VAX C compiler to compile one of his functions to exactly that one machine instruction, and there was no way he could make the compiler do that! Others pointed out that it would be silly to use that instruction in that context, but he insisted: If the compiler wouldn't do what he wanted, it was useless and should be thrown away. Assembly code is the only way to get what you want! ... This was in the 1990s, not the 1960s...
When I talk with shell guys that insists that GUIs are useless for serious work, I think that they must be close relatives to this assembler code guy.
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Member 7989122 wrote: this assembler code guy
I think shell and console apps are useful for automation, but for serious work a GUI is intuitive, shows you what's possible and enables you to work without reading a lot of documentation.
Anyone who says GUIs are useless haven't worked with good UIs or are just pretentious jerks
And maybe some people still live in the past where GUIs weren't invented yet.
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Can it be harder than LaTeX (did I get the stylization right?)? I remember fighting with this thing for the sole reason of everybody else doing it and brackets, which permeate scientific writing like mold are a friggin' nightmare. The escaping rules for them are less consistent than escaping in C for no good reason.
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My wife wrote a big document with latex back then... I lost count how many times I had to jump in (without having learned latex) to get the format as she wanted and / or to fix things
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Actually, I don't mind that kind of key sequences as an input method, sort of like an extension of control characters and function keys. In an HTML editor, I wouldn't mind if two blanks followed by return would replace it with <p>[newline]<p>.
But actually, I hate HTML / XML as an input format; it is like writing a user application in x64 assembler code (with no debugger available). If you need markup/markdown, you are writing a text document. Then you should use a document editor, not documentation assembly code - whether you call it markup, markdown, Postscript, HTML, TeX or LaTeX - they are all like different document CPU instruction sets. Not document development languages.
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Even MS seems to have lost sight of the benefits of a rapid application development (RAD) environment. In the 90s, MS created a great designer for forms in VB, and even transitioned the forms designer through conversion to assembler, then to C++.
But now, MS can't seem to hire people smart enough to make designers for XAML (Xamarin and WPF) and HTML (Blazor), and they are having trouble getting the long-existing WinForms designer to work with .NET Core.
How could developers of 25-30 years ago create such great WYSIWYG designers, but today's developers cannot?
Maybe MS and other companies that lean towards command line fuddy-duddery and hand-crafting UI are not hiring sufficiently mature and creative software engineers.
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I thought markdown so you don't need a fancy editor to make markdown
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Is an eating disorder when you have an order of dis, an' an order of dis, an' two of dis, an' ... ?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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And finish your meal with an order for dissert.
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but it's disorder surely dissert wouldn't be last?
after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!
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I get stressed when I eat my dessert first - the meal order is backwards!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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No! An eating dis-order is where you insult the waiter/waitress.
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It's when you eat everything - from Zucchini to Aspic.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I want an experienced doctor, not one that's in practice.
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Reminds me of a scene in Porridge:
Doctor: "Are you a practising homosexual?"
Godber: "What does he mean, practising?"
Fletcher: "Just that you're not very good at it yet."
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"I practice law"
"Well for the money I'm paying you you better do more than practice!"
Real programmers use butterflies
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Not that I've ever had to interact with a lawyer, but if one told me he's practicing, I'd ask for someone who does it for real.
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Just wondering for example if I have a question on a C# stuff, Where Should I post this? In the Message board/Forum or Quick answers?
What's the difference between two?
cheers,
Super
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Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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Depends on the type of question. If it's a "this doesn't work / what's wrong" then it's QA for sure. If it's a narrative or liable to be a long discussion, then the forums are a better bet as conversations is what they are all about.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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