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Sander Rossel wrote: I wonder if the same goes for multi-platform .NET Core
I think so ... unless you need a user-interface with some more-than=stupid controls on it that are not grafted on by running a browser under the hood 
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Sander Rossel wrote: Especially the DataGridView was a horror to work with
It still is... 
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Ignorant - An individual without knowledge, but is willing to learn.
Stupid - An individual without knowledge and is incapable of learning.
Idiot - An individual without knowledge and allows social media to do the thinking for them.
modified 19-Nov-21 21:01pm.
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Sander Rossel wrote: That rules out any controls .NET has to offer
Hi Sandor,
Let me clarify my comment: imho, in this later stage of personal computing where rich user interfaces are the norm, the Catch-22 of any attempt at having a multi-OS dev solution is that really rich, complex, controls ... not buttons, checkboxes, monofont textboxes ... probably need to access OS dependent facilities under-the-hood for platform-centric look-and-feel, for rendering speed and fidelity.
The emergence of web browsers driven by JavaScript as a lowest common denominator solution for multi-OS apps is the major current solution, but, that means your not-a-web-app has to add a browser engine, and interact with it to invoke the platform-dependent goodness.Sander Rossel wrote: I remember the WinForms controls were not even half-decent
imho, for their time, they were useful, and free, and their limitations drove a thriving 3rd, party control industry, as well as many wonderful CP articles.
cheers, the old fossil, Bill
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Safe and protective in that so long as you don't venture out all the parts (at least in theory) work together and consistently.
Perhaps modify that to .NET on Windows - or may .NET on WindowsN. For, you see, code I wrote for XP didn't quite work on 7 - but I got it to work. But them more changes came about - Win7 on VMWare started to stop working.
If one stays completely in a single world it becomes, as Candid was taught by his mentor, Pangloss, 'since this is the only possible world then it is the best of all possible worlds".
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Quote: The real reason is that everyone and his kid brother have taken Linux, and bent/folded/stapled it so that it is incompatible with any other version
Amen.
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The sense of accomplishment?
Because he wants to see how many compiler warnings the developer is ignoring?
Because he can check the code carefully to ensure it doesn't contain ransomware?
Because he's desperate to find anything that runs on Linux? 
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Quote: Because he's desperate to find anything that runs on Linux?
It could be worse. It could be PIC32.
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Quote: It could be worse. It could be PIC32.
Do not even joke about it!
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Don't be sad, you should rather enjoy the development on PIC32 and his cousins!
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It's the whole 32 bit thing threw me when I wasn't aware of it...
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I find it (programming for 32 bit MCUs, compared to programming for 16 and 8 bit ones) simplier. I really enjoy C++ with PIC32.
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I got it dumped on me due to the previous guy leaving, didn't really have time to use it properly, I was doing 4 bit (support), 8 bit & 16 bit... really ought to look at it again when I have time.
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Because he/she would otherwise have to support all the possible architectures, OS versions and so on.
If the code works and the libraries are included then anyone can very easily compile it and run it, plus it is easily embeddable in the end project themselves.
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Sander Rossel wrote: I believe this is standard practice for everything ever written for Linux,
Another reason Linux will never overtake Windows.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
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Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Didn't that already happen? 
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Never already happened?
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Have a look at your phone, your watch, your router... Or at least, mine.
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You car... of the 50-130 ECU a car produced in the last 20 years has there are Linux systems, I myself am working on an embedded Linux placed in the connectivity ECU, which is now mandatory in the US for the legislastive emergency calls.
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Ah, I see what you mean. I was referring to personal computers.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Quote: I was referring to personal computers.
Actually I guessed that. But...
- I just can't help myself from kidding.
- Some general awareness of how much Linux is 'embedded in our lives' could be useful.
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If you purchased that software, for your environment, I think you have a valid point. If the version you got was open source or free without support, you don't. You might complain about the developers professionalism but you did get your moneys worth. Much of Linux software is open source and some developers provide packages for mainstream distros, some don't. If it is free and you want to contribute back (rather than just take), create a package for your environment: Windows, Mac, Linux, whatever and share it back to the project. I think a lot of small Open Source stuff is just "good enough", and escapes.
I especially like it when the fanboys bash something. Linux and iStuff seem to be favorite targets. I guess Windows is next. Not sure what the Internet would be like without Linux and I wonder if the Windows phones would have reached their huge success if not pushed by Android and Apple.. oh, wait. 
I have an iPhone because it "talks" to my hearing aids. I have a Windows system that controls surveillance cameras (Blue Iris) and I have a Linux desktop that hosts Windows systems (even W2000) for development. I am happy, I don't hate anything (Well, Windows updates can annoy me).
Have a great day.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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theoldfool wrote: If it is free and you want to contribute back (rather than just take), create a package for your environment: Windows, Mac, Linux, whatever and share it back to the project.
That's the thing, I never did any C/C++ development so I wouldn't know how.
Spending hours to learn how to do this and installing tooling I'll never use again goes a bit far for my needs and really isn't worth the trouble.
Providing a Windows installer would make this undoubtedly awesome software available to so much more people, which is what it deserves.
Or maybe not, because to be fair, the software's intended user base is C/C++ developers who probably know how to build it
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Ooohhhh.... I don't know what it is, but I definitely want it for my VAX, Alpha, and Itanium systems running OpenVMS.
What?
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