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honey the codewitch wrote: Edit: I also have to use Chrome sometimes in the VM since firefox doesn't like the article submission wizard here at codeproject entirely. has problems pasting.
That's another benefit of using VM, I run my browsers/email on the host.
worth keeping what's installed on the guests to minimal requirements, cleaner, less to clone / snapshot or even rebuild, less chance of progs/installers interfering.
- If you run databases worthwhile to install on host or separate guests,
- also separate dev and test guests (common files/directories on host shared directories)
after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!
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The big updates take me about five minutes...
I must say I never have a problem with updates.
Take a break, get something to drink, stop by in the Lounge... 
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Same here, never had an issue at all with internet speed, VS (or whatever) update speed, on both work and home machines.
It's much easier to enjoy the favor of both friend and foe, and not give a damn who's who. -- Lon Milo DuQuette
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Visual studio downloader, first downloads, then asks you; do you want to upgrade.
Not the other way around.
So of cause you're not waiting for downloads, when its done downloading, when it asks you 
(It's magic!)
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Mine is setup to never download without my permission. I get notifications letting me know there is an upgraded version. I decide when it gets downloaded and installed. I have this configured for both my personal and work machines.
Perhaps, some people have no control over their work environments; not sure.
It's much easier to enjoy the favor of both friend and foe, and not give a damn who's who. -- Lon Milo DuQuette
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My point was that downloading the update, does not stop anyone from working in VS.
It's first when they apply the actual update, that it takes time.
And, on a sidenote; multiple discussions has said that VS is one of the programs that benefiths the most from being installed on a ssd, with its huge amount of small files.
But no, downloading updates, no matter if you approve them or not, still will not you from working with VS while it downloads.
And, just to be fair; i've never had a vs minor update that required me to reboot… only when moving from 2017 to 2019; but these 16.4.2 to 16.4.3, or even 16.2.0 to 16.3.1.. still does not require reboot here.
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Yeah. A lot of people complain here about VS, Windows OS, and Microsoft in general. I usually don't.
It has been my experience that most, not all, of the complainers are doing it wrong. Wasted breath. Wasted typing. Wasted time.
Microsoft and VS has made me very happy financially. I make an excellent living using VS and Microsoft products (among others of course).
It's much easier to enjoy the favor of both friend and foe, and not give a damn who's who. -- Lon Milo DuQuette
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I don't have your connection speed. Mine is woeful, though i'll be upgrading this year. I am just loath to give comcast any more money.
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
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And after the installation; please reboot NOW! It stays Windows....Loves to stick to it bad habits
In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.
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Because visual Studio is still the best IDE with a wide margin!
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Quote: Because visual Studio is still the best IDE with a wide margin!
Hear! Hear!
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I mean, yes but...
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
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There's always emacs.
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That's as true as can be, but it's the windows infrastructure and updater that's the problem.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Forsooth! 
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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This morning's update took my machine less than 2 minutes. What's the big deal? 
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I haven't run it yet, but last two updates i got were 1GB each
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
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I suppose the size depends on the collection of components you have. I only installed the C# Wpf, the C++ and the UWP components. I don't need anything else.
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I have VSIX stuff and a bunch of C++ stuff so that's probably why. The MFC libs and headers alone are huge.
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
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As little MSFT-specific stuff for me as possible, which keeps it far more manageable. And no C# either. If I can new objects, I can bloody well delete them.
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Yeah, would be nice if a future update could allow the patches to be pushed via windows update and installed at the same time as your next planned restart. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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At least they don't force it on you and interrupt your work day, so there's that.
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
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Go to settings for Windows update and check "Recieve updates for other Microsoft products when you update Windows".
Works for me.
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