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You are absolutely correct. Both of us missed parts of the expression. That is why I would more likely use the first variant I gave rather than the second one. And probably would write neither in practice, but without a wider context can't say what I would actually write. It would probably involve some restructuring.
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rjmoses wrote: Somebody sure put a lot of faith that the order of evaluation, especially short-circuit evaluation, would remain the same across compilers!
Order of evaluation and the short-circuit behavior is (or at least, used to be) part of the C language definition.
It's the use of variable assignment and pre-decrement operator in the (short-circuited) if statement that worries me. Regardless, I hope you rewrote it into something more maintainable.
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I remember a demo where someone turned a for-loop into an until one (ptr->next instead of i++, next!=nil instead of i<=max and so on). My first reaction was "wow, that's clever". My second reaction was "you know how you f***ing hate it to debug clever code, especially if it's your own clever code from half a year ago".
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After having received the anycubic mega-s and being really impressed with it, I found that I was wanting to rattle out maybe another small print, but the printer was busy doing something big, so basically tied up for the day (or over night). I started looking around for a 2nd smaller printer, one of these nano/mini ones that could print objects upto around 10cm cubed. The prices weren't far off the same price as my current printer, and by the time I added shipping to Cyprus, it just didn't make sense, so I didn't bother.....
Then I was in chat on a thread in Twitter, and someone posted a link to the printer I had already bought, on the manufacturers website and had mentioned the price, and I thought that it sounded slightly cheaper than normal and so out of curiosity I clicked the link and visited the site, and sure enough it was on sale $40 off. That is when I noticed they were having a pre-christmas sale.
I just started looking at all their models again, just because I was the site, and then I noticed their large Delta style Predator printer was reduced from $619 to $339 in the sale, but only available in Europe and Australia. I thought their shipping price to Cyprus would kill the savings. I added it to the basket and took it through the checkout process to see what they would charge for the shipping and well elephanting me it was FREE!
I really couldn't miss this, so paid with paypal and the exchange rate came out at 266ukp. So I consider this a birthday present to myself, seeing as that is next week! 
Now, I knew this thing would be bigger than my current one, as the print volume is 370mm diameter by 455mm tall, but it wasn't until I looked at Youtube at the reviews that it really dawned on me how big.
I mean, it looks massive next to this guy.... 
Anycubic Predator 3D printer Review - YouTube
Good job I have a dead corner in the office at home that it can sit in!
Anyway, can't wait for it to arrive now, could job I'm heading home next week and it should be arriving around the same time. 
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Holy cr@p, that's big!
I'd have to remove stuff from my office just to get it in, and even then it'd be massive cat-bait unless I moved even more stuff out to give space for a box to put it in ...
Congrats on the free shipping though! 
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As absolutely bitchin and "space age" 3d printing is. Compared to laser 2D printers it still seems primitive. Lots of plugging stuff and add on stuff to make it better. Reminds my of the early days of the personal computer like the Amiga heyday and the nerd clubs. I think someday we'll look back and snicker at the fiddlyness of it all.
Kick A$$ tugboats.
Toot toot!
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Print me a cute lil car.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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I think it could manage this one:
cute lil car - Google Search[^]
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Wow, that looks like what you get if you fart inside a Smart car.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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IMCDb.org: BMW Isetta 300 in "Family Matters, 1989-1998"[^]
Steve Urkel loved it
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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DaveAuld, won't you print me a Mercedes Benz ?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends.
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So, DaveAuld, won't you print me a Mercedes Benz ?
With apologies to Janis Joplin
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I thought the chicken was rather cool and a little odd textured last night - I cooked a Red Thai Curry in the Sous Vide - and I checked it today: the temperature gauge is overreading by between 15C and 25C. So last nights chicken was cooked at ~40C for three hours instead of 65C ... fortunately, we don't seem to have developed any "problems" as a result, which is definately good news!
So, contact the manufacturers to see if I can fix it since they are in the US ... and then realize it's got a two year warranty and I ordered it direct from them in March 2018! Yay! ![Jig | [Dance]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif)
It should be covered!
Then realize there is no way it's going to be fixed under warranty before Christmas, and I have based the whole meal around Sous Vide turkey and trimmings. 
So, I'll get it fixed for free, eventually, but I'll have to buy a "spare" to tide me over while I wait ... damnit!
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Quote: Damnit - another thing dies
Please choose your words with care. You just made me feel my pulse. I thought for a moment you're referring to me. 
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Fire up the barbie on Christmas Day.
btw four installed but not us
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Chris has a ... unique grasp of time, I've noticed! 
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I wonder if he's a member of one of those tribes that talk about "the dream time"?
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you mean it wont let you set it to 90 degrees? (minus the 25 error = 65)
or just pull out the element from an old electric jug,
cut 1 side of the power cable and add a huge resistor,
drill a hole in the sous vide
and shove that in there to add the extra heat.
may require a bit of trial and error on the resistor.
oh, and if no resistors on hand use a bucket of water,
just add salt or fresh water to adjust resistance.
(I've always done my most ambitious DIY during Christmas.)
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If the temp sensor isn't accurate it will wreck the food - the margin for "which protein to cook" is pretty narrow, and it makes a huge difference to the end result. A bit like the difference between medium rare and well done - and for the same reasons.
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So if you know it's off by 15 to 25C...adjust to compensate? Is anything else broken?
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Trouble is the range is so wide, and it appears to widen as the temp increases.
And Sous Vide cooking is all about precision - this circulator used to hold the water at x degrees C +/- 0.1C and you need at least +/- 1C to tune it for the "right protein". (There is a lot of science involved in exactly what you are doing, but it's the same as "regular cooking" - the higher the core temperature of the meat, the more "well done" and chewy it gets. Being accurate on your temperature allows you to specify exactly how you want it, and a relatively small variation has a big effect on the appearance, texture, and flavour of the resulting food. In addition, undercooking chicken for example risks not killing the really nasty bugs [Campylobacter, Salmonella, and Clostridium Perfringens; as well as "Hygiene related" problems like E-coli if handlers further down the food chain aren't fastidious] and nobody wants them!)
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OriginalGriff wrote: Sous Vide cooking is all about precision
Not just, well for meat it is, but if you sous vide cook vegetables the temperature is less important and the fact that you cook them in their own juices does more fore the taste.
So consider having two machines, one cheapo for veggies and one proper for meat
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So I've got slang running, and I'm building a bunch of build tools with it.
I've updated my "Rolex" lexer generator to be much more gold plated since it now uses Slang.
I'm considering writing a unique partial parser generator that generates recursive descent routines to build a backtracking parser with.
but other than that what codegen tools should I create?
A better XML Schema to code mapping than XSD.exe allows for?
A data layer generator? (pain in my bum, and I've never believed in them being able to be completely generalized, though Slang could be used to mitigate that)
Any other ideas? Bueler?
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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