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DaveAuld, won't you print me a Mercedes Benz ?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends.
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So, DaveAuld, won't you print me a Mercedes Benz ?
With apologies to Janis Joplin
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I thought the chicken was rather cool and a little odd textured last night - I cooked a Red Thai Curry in the Sous Vide - and I checked it today: the temperature gauge is overreading by between 15C and 25C. So last nights chicken was cooked at ~40C for three hours instead of 65C ... fortunately, we don't seem to have developed any "problems" as a result, which is definately good news!
So, contact the manufacturers to see if I can fix it since they are in the US ... and then realize it's got a two year warranty and I ordered it direct from them in March 2018! Yay! ![Jig | [Dance]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif)
It should be covered!
Then realize there is no way it's going to be fixed under warranty before Christmas, and I have based the whole meal around Sous Vide turkey and trimmings. 
So, I'll get it fixed for free, eventually, but I'll have to buy a "spare" to tide me over while I wait ... damnit!
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Quote: Damnit - another thing dies
Please choose your words with care. You just made me feel my pulse. I thought for a moment you're referring to me. 
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Fire up the barbie on Christmas Day.
btw four installed but not us
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Chris has a ... unique grasp of time, I've noticed! 
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I wonder if he's a member of one of those tribes that talk about "the dream time"? 
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you mean it wont let you set it to 90 degrees? (minus the 25 error = 65)
or just pull out the element from an old electric jug,
cut 1 side of the power cable and add a huge resistor,
drill a hole in the sous vide
and shove that in there to add the extra heat.
may require a bit of trial and error on the resistor.
oh, and if no resistors on hand use a bucket of water,
just add salt or fresh water to adjust resistance.
(I've always done my most ambitious DIY during Christmas.)
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If the temp sensor isn't accurate it will wreck the food - the margin for "which protein to cook" is pretty narrow, and it makes a huge difference to the end result. A bit like the difference between medium rare and well done - and for the same reasons.
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So if you know it's off by 15 to 25C...adjust to compensate? Is anything else broken?
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Trouble is the range is so wide, and it appears to widen as the temp increases.
And Sous Vide cooking is all about precision - this circulator used to hold the water at x degrees C +/- 0.1C and you need at least +/- 1C to tune it for the "right protein". (There is a lot of science involved in exactly what you are doing, but it's the same as "regular cooking" - the higher the core temperature of the meat, the more "well done" and chewy it gets. Being accurate on your temperature allows you to specify exactly how you want it, and a relatively small variation has a big effect on the appearance, texture, and flavour of the resulting food. In addition, undercooking chicken for example risks not killing the really nasty bugs [Campylobacter, Salmonella, and Clostridium Perfringens; as well as "Hygiene related" problems like E-coli if handlers further down the food chain aren't fastidious] and nobody wants them!)
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OriginalGriff wrote: Sous Vide cooking is all about precision
Not just, well for meat it is, but if you sous vide cook vegetables the temperature is less important and the fact that you cook them in their own juices does more fore the taste.
So consider having two machines, one cheapo for veggies and one proper for meat
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So I've got slang running, and I'm building a bunch of build tools with it.
I've updated my "Rolex" lexer generator to be much more gold plated since it now uses Slang.
I'm considering writing a unique partial parser generator that generates recursive descent routines to build a backtracking parser with.
but other than that what codegen tools should I create?
A better XML Schema to code mapping than XSD.exe allows for?
A data layer generator? (pain in my bum, and I've never believed in them being able to be completely generalized, though Slang could be used to mitigate that)
Any other ideas? Bueler?
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I need something that can generate code from manager speak
In fact, if it can translate manager speak into regular language I'd be more than happy as well 
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sony bravia 4k blah blah, plugged it into my computer, decided to watch a movie, and ...
Forgot that Brazil is a Christmas movie!
Bonus: obligatory festive season movie: Done. 
oh yeah, TV's OK - still not going to watch FTA though
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lopatir wrote: still not going to watch FTA though
The The Freight Transport Association[^]? Can't say I blame you ...
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Ah, Brazil, best enjoyed with a cup of coffee 
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OriginalGriff wrote: I find they are fine, once you have sucked the chocolate off and spat them out.
I hate it when people don't finish their sentences.
Only the crappiest, driest, most tasteless Brazil nuts are covered with chocolate.
Get a cheap chocolate fountain, instead. Much more fun.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Ah, yes...Sony...have you made plans already to replace it, when it stops working 3 days after the warranty runs out and they tell you the required $2 replacement part is no longer available?
(not kidding, this is the exact same story I've now heard from 3 different people who don't even know each other)
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good you posted this, reminded me to gather the receipts etc to a safe place.
actually she bought the hardly normal extended warranty, 5 years all up.
figure by then I'll let her buy new one,
... after all 5 years from now who would want anything less than:
- 160 Gig resolution in 80 Tera-colors,
- gesture and thought control - and a spy cam that tells the robovac when to do it's job,
- direct skeletal sound system with cranial mega-bass
- artificial super-intelligence (plays ads and buys eggs for you even when switched off)
- ...
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I have no idea how to reliably examine post JIT'd asm in .NET - I haven't really tried yet, but I would be really interested to know how it handles forwarded virtual calls that don't change the stack frame and don't do anything other than forward.
Some methods can be resolved using a jump because all they do is forward calls to another method.
This can happen a lot in OOP when you have base classes calling derived classes through virtual functions.
In those cases, instead of doing two jumps to get to the final method, such that target->base->derived, it could know just to do target->derived directly?
I'm inclined to believe it won't, for reasons, but if it did it would be a fine excuse to go really deep with your derived classes.
I was wondering because I'm rewriting some tokenizer code and I was thinking of going two levels deep in my derived classes (again for reasons) but tokenizers shouldn't waste clock cycles they don't need to waste. (It's bad enough writing one in C#)
Edit: Never mind. I was out of my head. You can't describe what I'm trying to describe in such a way that the vtbl already has the forwarded calls in it anway. I wasn't thinking straight. 
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Go into the debug settings, uncheck "suppress jit optimization on module load", debug a release build. Or you can throw an exception near the code you want to see (throw it conditionally in a way that you know is true but the compiler won't know, to stop it optimizing stuff out), let the program die and attach debugger when prompted.
E: you can open the disassembly window anyway, but if you don't do those things then you get the deliberately deoptimized debug version, which is not representative of the program the way it will really be executed.
honey the codewitch wrote: Some methods can be resolved using a jump because all they do is forward calls to another method.
This can happen a lot in OOP when you have base classes calling derived classes through virtual functions.
I don't really get what you have in mind here, otherwise I would try it myself.
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abstract class Foo {
public abstract Bark();
}
abstract class Bar : Foo {
}
class Dog : Bar {
}
I just realized something.
The only way to make what I happened happen is to do in such a way that it won't matter anyway.
Basically the vtbl slots will already be filled with the forwarded pointer. My bad.
So never mind. I'll leave my message up in shame 
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