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I never said source control was backup.
I said doing source control on a server next to my Dev PC doesn't make sense in case the house burns down
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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Kevin Marois wrote: I never said source control was backup.
I said I need source control as a backup in case the house burns down
That's what I hear.
If you want to secure your work against the case where your house burns down, seek a backup solution.
If you want to be able to maintain different versions of your codebase, seek a source control system.
There's no reason you can't use both.
Technically, you can setup a source control system as a backup solution. But it would be very inefficient. I've tried it once but found it to be painfully slow. Plus it clogs your drives with version control info that you might not even need - at least not on your local drives!
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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Host the repo locally. Store the backups of the repo off-site.
I believe that's the crux of Griff's point.
Cheers,
Mike Fidler
"I intend to live forever - so far, so good." Steven Wright
"I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met." Also Steven Wright
"I'm addicted to placebos. I could quit, but it wouldn't matter." Steven Wright yet again.
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My personal ISP (DreamHost) allows SVN installations. Check your ISP.
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Try Assembla.com, I have had good luck with them and integrating into Visual Studio with Ankhsvn
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git is fine if you use it right. It's branching is better than SVN. Get a UI like Sourcetree and use 'git flow'.
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I've worked with Git for years and never amended anything.
I don't get the issue with reverting.
How would you solve that using TFSC or SVN?
The fact is you pushed something that didn't work to the master branch, people made other changes to that code and now you want it removed.
I've been in the situation where I had to revert multiple commits and this was as easy as selecting the commit I wanted to go back to and selecting "revert to this commit".
As the author says, all backward changes were added to the branch, but my coworkers had some merge conflicts.
Those conflicts are to be expected since I just messed up the whole code base that everyone was working on.
SVN or any other SCM isn't going to handle that gracefully either...
Actually, I don't recognize anything he talks about in that post, except this little sentence in the intro:
János Kubisch wrote: Fortunately, it is really hard to irrevocably mess something up with git, as long as you have the .git hidden folder in your project intact!
In my experience it takes some getting used to.
I worked in a team who worked with SVN for years and they were also a bunch of bunglers, so they complained about Git for years and never got the hang of it.
Another team who moved to Git was amazed at how easy the transition was.
At first, I thought it was overly complicated compared to SVN, but now I never want to go back.
It's very easy to branch and merge, which makes developing new features and cooperating in teams so much easier.
I wouldn't dismiss Git based on that one article...
Just be sure to get some GUI tool.
Not the default or the command line, those are for script kiddies who think they're so cool because they use command line.
I use SourceTree or Visual Studio 2019 and those work well.
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I use the builtin with VS 2017 and it works. I've only run into one major problem with it - it sometimes tries to push my entire Projects folder. But I've worked around the issue
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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honey the codewitch wrote: it sometimes tries to push my entire Projects folder
Do you have a .gitignore?
I've never used it before because I was missing stashing functionality.
I used to like SourceTree A LOT better (VS 2015-2017), but with 2019 it's just slightly better I think.
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I seem to, but it's intermittent problem so i think it's a bug. Overall this 2017 installation has been shaky at points.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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learn GIT, it's a PITA, but it works.
I'd rather be phishing!
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That's the argument that makes bad products the leaders in their branche.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I have a solution with some projects in the same base folder, and other projects that are shared in different locations. When I right-click the solution and choose "Add To Source Control", a Git message pops up:
Source Control - Git
The current solution has projects that are located outside the solution folder. These projects will not be source controlled in the Git repository. To add all the projects to a single Git repository please consolidate all projects under a single folder.
This doesn't even make sense.
I've heard too many horror stories about Git. This is one of them.
See also Git Catastrophes and Tips to Avoid Them | @RisingStack
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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There are many horror stories with GIT and there are many more good stories with GIT.
see also Oh Sh*t, Git!?!
You know we use it, we're 10 developers, we all have multiple branches running in parallel, we have many version tags.
We have a simple workflow
In 4,5 years, I think we had one major issue (no data loss), I think it was because we busted the 1 gig repository size and needed to move files to the LFS system and rebuild the history.
From what I can see, your problem seems to be related to the GIT in Visual Studio; I've seen some solution on StackOverflow; maybe not exactly like your situation, but it should be a good way to start looking at it.
Maybe you could try an external GIT tool (tortoiseGIT, Kraken.... ) and see how it goes.
Anyway, good luck![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif) .
I'd rather be phishing!
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That's because it's a visual studio error, not a git error. Git doesn't know anything about "solutions" - that's a VS thing.
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Kevin Marois wrote: With MS saying not to use VSTS, and I DON'T WANT GIT, what are my options?
I continue to use TFVC hosted at Microsoft. I'm allergic to Git (which is what I use at work).
/ravi
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Can you add new projects? My VS2017 won't let me use anything but Git
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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Here's what I do:
- Create the project in the web interface (and select TFVC as the version control system).
- Create your solution using VStudio but don't "Add to source control".
- In VStudio, use Source Control Explorer to add your solution folder to the TFVC project.
- In VStudio, do File | Source Control | Advanced | Change Source Control and set the solution's source control bindings to the TFVC project.
After doing this, I work in VStudio as usual and check out and check in the solution's files normally.
/ravi
modified 30-Nov-19 18:43pm.
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I like Visual SVN. Free and works a treat.
My SVN repositories are on my own Windows server down "at the shop" because I'm a control enthusiast.
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I send SVN, i've been using it for many years.
I've started to use GIT and can't decide if I like it or not. Still use SVN as backup though!
They call me different but the truth is they're all the same!
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