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Eddy Vluggen wrote: If you don't listen to others, you'd be severely limited. Most learning in a classroom requires one to listen. And sometimes you're so stuck that even an outsider can get you unstuck with a suggestion.
I guess that this mindset already sets you apart from an arrogant prick.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: what I do is boring; if it were sexy, we'd be talking about generics and interfaces at parties.
Good point  . I did already participate at very boring party where the subject came up 
Eddy Vluggen wrote: Boring things (and people) can be relatively fun too.
I guess I misinterpreted you on that one.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: even an arrogant brat can't learn everything.
The brat will bet to differ. hahaha.
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In the end I think I now understand your rant. When it comes to recruiting it is very difficult to distinguish arrogance from confidence. That's when they way you communicate and interact with a recruiter can make a lot of difference. Not that there aren't terrible recruiters out there, but the process should be somewhat an enjoyable exchange of experience, not a battle.
When you believe the recruiter is being a dick, I would just end it there. It's a waste of time.
To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson
Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia
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Fabio Franco wrote: I did already participate at very boring party where the subject came up
It's nice to have someone to talk to about those. One of the reasons I log into CodeProject nearly daily 
Fabio Franco wrote: When it comes to recruiting it is very difficult to distinguish arrogance from confidence.
Didn't look like that, apparently some people can see it by the way you sit down.
When complaining about it to a (non-IT) friend, she noted that even good recruiters are human and can have a bad hair day. I s'ppose that's true.
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: apparently some people can see it by the way you sit down.
Some people reading skills which are hard to rely on, but I don't really believe this unless I can see some hard evidence and research. Having that said I do have gut feelings about this kind of thing, but it's not only hard but I also don't like to judge, I may be wrong and unfair to someone.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: even good recruiters are human and can have a bad hair day.
I also suppose so, but even then, I believe they won't really change their core behavior. They may be a bit harder on the candidate, but they won't go from a fair person to an unfair person, for example.
To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson
Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia
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Arrogant? No, I'm humble. In fact, I would say no-one is as humble as I am! 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
modified 8-Oct-19 8:57am.
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Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Programming isn't a challenge, it's mostly a boring thing that takes a lot of time
I'm truly sorry for you, that every job you've worked has been garbage.
Programming is a challenge, because it's solving problems. If the problem's already been solved, then I'm not solving it again myself, I'm import solutioning.
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Asday wrote: Programming is a challenge, because it's solving problems. If the problem's already been solved, then I'm not solving it again myself, I'm import solutioning.
Programming isn't about solving problems; it is automating an existing proces, often by writing code. So, you don't thouch anything that has already been done once? 
Asday wrote: I'm truly sorry for you, that every job you've worked has been garbage.
Another psychic medium eh?
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So, you don't thouch anything that has already been done once?
No? I don't. Why would I spend my finite time on this planet making something that already exists?
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Asday wrote: No? I don't. Why would I spend my finite time on this planet making something that already exists?
In my case, because the boss said so; meaning that we can provide an alternative solution to what already exists. Most of the time, LGPL libraries are out of the question too.
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I'm truly sorry for you, that every job you've worked has been garbage.
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Quote: Programming isn't about solving problems; it is automating an existing process,
Not always. Sometime there wasn't an existing process.
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Forogar wrote: Not always. Sometime there wasn't an existing process.
There is always a manual way to do things. That is not "solving a problem", but formalizing a proces so it can be automated. Takes a lot of talking to the domain-user to understand what needs be done, but that's it.
While that might not be agile, it was once a normal part of the design-phase.
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Quote: There is always a manual way to do things.
I created a new computer game that did not exist before. I thought it up and wrote some code to play it online. There never existed any "manual way" to do it - especially since it existed in 4-dimensional space.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Forogar wrote: I thought it up and wrote some code to play it online. There never existed any "manual way" to do it - especially since it existed in 4-dimensional space.
That's a nice example of "solving a problem".
You thought it up; that's defining the manual proces. We do not think in bytes as humans.
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Quote: We do not think in bytes as humans.
Speak for yourself!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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In that case, you'd be converting from binary to C# 
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Some bright spark decided to install scented "splash mats" in the mens room urinals.
Now it smells like someone pissed on a cinnamon stick in there
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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They had Orange at one point. Imagine a pissed on orange
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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Around here, in all the casinos across the river, the splash guards have the date written on them. And I thought being a casino cashier was a sucky job! 
Will Rogers never met me.
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Is that the ones that smell like spewed up After Shock?
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Would you prefer Pumpkin-Spice?
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That is a very interesting story.
You could tell the higher authorities to switch to regular mats.
I'd rather be phishing!
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