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Re: let's see if the .NET GC is as good as MS thinks it is.

2-Sep-19 10:10

GC.Collect();

Don't actually do this...

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honey the codewitch2-Sep-19 10:15

Re: let's see if the .NET GC is as good as MS thinks it is.

2-Sep-19 10:15

...
if(!GC.TryStartNoGCRegion (reserveMem))
  throw new Exception("Sander's computer is puny, like little girl.");
try
{
  // various black arts, maybe a sacrifice or two
...
}
finally
{  
  GC.EndNoGCRegion();
}

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Sander Rossel2-Sep-19 19:18

Re: let's see if the .NET GC is as good as MS thinks it is.

2-Sep-19 19:18

honey the codewitch wrote:
Sander's computer is puny, like little girl.

It gave me some real big man headaches lately D'Oh! | :doh:

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BillWoodruff2-Sep-19 10:35

BillWoodruff

2-Sep-19 10:35

reported as inappropriate for Lounge. there are several forums where such technical content is appropriate.

imho, by using the appropriate forums, you ensure valuable technical discussions have a chance at persisting in a way that adds value to CP in the long run ... instead of getting submerged in all of the other content on the Lounge.

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Re: let's see if the .NET GC is as good as MS thinks it is.

honey the codewitch2-Sep-19 10:37

Re: let's see if the .NET GC is as good as MS thinks it is.

2-Sep-19 10:37

oooh, someone's feeling his oats.

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BillWoodruff2-Sep-19 10:43

BillWoodruff

2-Sep-19 10:43

funny, I was just thinking about making some oatmeal !

i've amended my reponse to read:

reported as inappropriate for Lounge. there are several forums where such technical content is appropriate.
    
imho, by using the appropriate forums, you ensure valuable technical discussions have a chance at persisting in a way that adds value to CP in the long run ... instead of getting submerged in all of the other content on the Lounge.

Think about it: that can be interpreted as a statement about the value of your concerns, and code.

I've banged on this drum before, daring to even serenade such CP heroes as Clifton and JSOP.

does that make hay for you Smile | :)

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Re: let's see if the .NET GC is as good as MS thinks it is.

honey the codewitch2-Sep-19 10:44

Re: let's see if the .NET GC is as good as MS thinks it is.

2-Sep-19 10:44

I wasn't so interested in preserving the technical end of it. The point was it made me feel nice.

Refactoring is a labor of love. Smile | :)

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Pete O'Hanlon2-Sep-19 11:20

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2-Sep-19 11:20

You should see what you can do with the new .NET Core features. It's become a lot less "allocatey" with the moves to .NET Core 2 and beyond. There are new APIs such as Span<t> and Memory<t> (and a whole lot more) that improve both the speed of working with .NET, and reduce the allocation/GC footprint. I would suggest reading up about these features and the other improvements in .NET Core (and .NET Standard). They are fascinating.

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Re: let's see if the .NET GC is as good as MS thinks it is.

honey the codewitch2-Sep-19 11:21

Re: let's see if the .NET GC is as good as MS thinks it is.

2-Sep-19 11:21

I've really wanted to use Spans and such more but they are only in Core so I'm holding out for .NET 5 which is supposed to unify everything (again Laugh | :laugh:

)

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Pete O'Hanlon2-Sep-19 21:41

Pete O'Hanlon

2-Sep-19 21:41

Spans are in .NET Standard as well as .NET Core.

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Re: let's see if the .NET GC is as good as MS thinks it is.

honey the codewitch3-Sep-19 1:49

Re: let's see if the .NET GC is as good as MS thinks it is.

3-Sep-19 1:49

i didn't realize they were in standard but they're not in the dNF

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Pete O'Hanlon3-Sep-19 3:45

Pete O'Hanlon

3-Sep-19 3:45

Yeah, the architecture of the old framework means it can't be backported.

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Re: let's see if the .NET GC is as good as MS thinks it is.

honey the codewitch3-Sep-19 4:06

3-Sep-19 4:06

That's what I assumed. I got the impression the behavior of the CLI implementation was slightly different for each one. Otherwise they'd not need an external host app (dotnet.exe) i think.

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2-Sep-19 4:51

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2-Sep-19 5:06

I will think about that after having eaten my steak.

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2-Sep-19 6:30

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2-Sep-19 22:23

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3-Sep-19 5:06

Digging deep, Griff... digging deep.

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honey the codewitch2-Sep-19 4:13

2-Sep-19 4:13

it always comes down to trial and error. make a thing, try a thing, go back and *remake* the thing because DHTML and CSS are funny in a sad kind of way - like an old married couple that hates each other but won't divorce.

is there a better way to do it? I mean other than schlepping it off onto someone else, which is my first choice. Laugh | :laugh:

is there some magic to web development that makes it not suck?

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Sander Rossel2-Sep-19 4:18

2-Sep-19 4:18

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I have some experience with Betty Blocks, and the HTML and CSS part is indeed quite easy, just drag it on the form.
Everything else sucks, like no source control, back-end code is also drag 'n drop, don't even try the newest front-end frameworks, weird database without a query language (that I know of)...
You can't have your pie and eat it too Big Grin | :-D

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honey the codewitch2-Sep-19 4:19

2-Sep-19 4:19

it sounds like trading one set of problems for another.

and speaking of this webdev crap, the WPF designer is about as bad as all that.

Which is why i don't use WPF

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PeejayAdams2-Sep-19 4:29

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2-Sep-19 4:29

I find with WPF that it's far easier just to write the XAML as text and ignore the WYSIWYMIYGBPW* editor as much as possible.

(*What you see is what you might imagine you'll get but probably won't).

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honey the codewitch2-Sep-19 4:36

2-Sep-19 4:36

does that somehow make error reporting come back?

i love when i put a control on a page and I get no control, and no error.

it just warms my black little heart.

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Sander Rossel2-Sep-19 4:50