|
Me too ... and I miss Turbo Prolog even more. Of course, everything was simpler those days.
"The only easy day was yesterday" as the Navy Seals say.
|
|
|
|
|
Those were the days... 
Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
|
|
|
|
|
Still keeping an old TP app alive that I offered to help out with 25 years ago! DosBox and no "Opening the file" messages - joy!
|
|
|
|
|
FoxPro for DOS (pre-MS). I wrote a sales lead tracking application (think early CRM) that ran unchanged for well over a decade. It even survived Y2K. 
|
|
|
|
|
I used FoxPro for DOS at my workplace to create some pretty complicated applications.
Once, during an upgrade to our payroll system used for almost 20,000 employees, I wrote an application to compare the master file output from the old version with the new version, looking for differences which would signal compatibility issues. This app helped to eliminate a lot of confusion and busy work by our HR and payroll folks to ferret out those problems.
My star shone a little brighter for a while...sigh.
FoxPro fan
|
|
|
|
|
It's weird.
I've always programmed in C++ (and sometimes C) in the last 30 years; there was a small stint in pascal at one earlier point, but not enough to be nostalgic.
So, no false nostalgia of better days.
I'd rather be phishing!
|
|
|
|
|
I miss Clarion. Surprisingly, it is still around (I just checked). I used it back in the DOS days.
“The palest ink is better than the best memory.” - Chinese Proverb
|
|
|
|
|
Yup it is still being used. I just created a .net for clarion to use.
[Signature space for sale]
|
|
|
|
|
I Sometimes miss the Univac 1100 Assembler that I spent so many years working on. But most modern languages are so much better in many ways.
|
|
|
|
|
I miss PLAN (Programming LANguage for the ICL 1900 series). Wrote many nice utilities in that.
Still a member of the BCS Fortran SIG, but mainly used FORTRAN IV (and dabbled with F77).
'Modern' (post 1970) languages have added layers of complexity in the guise of simplification.
|
|
|
|
|
Yes, but remember how long it took to write out the coding sheets, get the cards punched, submit them for compilation, only to find you made a simple spelling mistake, or the punch girl mis-read your hieroglyphics.
|
|
|
|
|
Ah yes - happy days (not). Two weeks turnround. It ensured we did desk debugging properly.
Still got some of my old programs. Has anyone got a card reader?
|
|
|
|
|
Me, too. But also coding for 1900/2903/2960 DME executives where op codes were written in octal. 000 = LDX, etc
|
|
|
|
|
I learned programming in college by writing programs in Algol-60 on a Univac 1108. My, how time flies!
|
|
|
|
|
I learned Assembler, Fortran and PLUS on the 1108. Never got into Algol-60, but I know one of the Burroughs systems used it for all their Operating System code.
|
|
|
|
|
I spent a lot of my life coding in Z80 assembler, and sometimes - but not often - I do miss it.
Being that "close" to the hardware feels ... natural, if you know what I mean.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
|
|
|
|
|
Griff. We have received complaints from various hardware devices about you not respecting personal space...
This space for rent.
|
|
|
|
|
Yeah, my first job was on an old IBM Series/1, which ran in this somewhat low-level language called EDL (Event Driven Language).
It was kind of assembler-like. Debugging consisted of getting a printout, on the left of which would be the actual compiled code (80A2 as an if-equals, I think).
So, you learned a lot of how memory is actually managed by getting that close to the OS. I think that helps understand (or at least be able to theorize) better about what's under the hood when using higher-level languages.
I wouldn't say I miss it, Bob. But, it was interesting to peer into the sausage factory, and I think it made me better at thinking about doing things (relatively) efficiently in more modern systems.
|
|
|
|
|
I used to like using identifiers and COBOL's 88 lines to make the code sound as much like English as I could.
That's not so satisfying (or possible) with other coding languages.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
|
|
|
|
|
No not really.
Gee you must have a good memory.
I could never do that.
You miss Fortran !!!.
I can't remember anything about it now except all those punch cards that knocked me around so much.
I do get a tiny bit nostalgic about some of them.
But it is more about the good memories of the times than the language.
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
|
|
|
|
|
Fortran 77, I took a Basic class (my first programming class) before this and darn near swore off programming, as the spaghettification factor was overwhelming. A math instructor talking me into taking Fortran class and I loved it.
Motorola HC11 assembler is another one, my first assembler language. At the time Motorola had what I thought was really good documentation regarding the chips' operation and the instruction set, coded a lot of assembler back then.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
|
|
|
|
|
I had a job once programming in Fortran 77 on a VAX 11/780. That was a nice machine!
|
|
|
|
|
I've learned BASIC "programming" (and I use that term loosely) on a Commodore 64. Line numbering, only having the first two characters of variable names being significant, resource limitations of the hardware...the short answer would have to be "no".
|
|
|
|
|
I miss real C - when I could access anything any way I wished.
Even earlier - once upon a time I could write FORTRAN faster than most others could do a spreadsheet (Lotus 123 and Symphony).
And never forget:
Feed
Register
Release
| Ravings en masse^ |
|---|
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
|
|
|
|
|
Somewhat.
But I still use a text editor and command-line complier with C# when I don't need a full IDE, so I continue to have that feel anyway.
And, of course, on my OpenVMS systems I have no IDE at all.
If I recall correctly, I have installed only C on my OpenVMS systems, although I have licenses and packages for Pascal and COBOL and other languages which I may never use again.
I would like to have Turbo Pascal 5.5 and Turbo C on my PC again, but only for fun. I have found that Turbo BASIC won't run on Win 10. 
|
|
|
|
General 
News 
Suggestion 
Question 
Bug 
Answer 
Joke 
Praise 
Rant 
Admin 
Submit an article or tip
