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lopatir wrote: I think it's muscle memory an old-fart habit from those of us that suffered editors that had combinations of no or limited undo, didn't auto save
Or anyone who's been in this business longer than two hours, or who's ever used a web browser for anything.
Software Zen: delete this;
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The ultimate hack would be to change Ctrl+S to "Send me your credit-card details".
I'd be broke in an hour.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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yeah. trouble is i don't have any good HTML editors. and i'm not about to edit a bunch of source while i'm working in a wysiwyg environment otherwise. it's just a lot of churn so anyway, it is what it is.
I'm rewriting what I lost, and no that thing doesn't have a redo feature. I was smashing Ctrl+Y and Ctrl+Shift+Z to try to get it to go but no dice. I think it was a glitch tbh, because it cleared like 1/5 of the article.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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codewitch honey crisis wrote: trouble is i don't have any good HTML editors
VS Code is a pretty good one.
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I haven't spent long enough with it. does it do wysiwyg? i mean, i don't mind tags but it gets tedious when writing an article. I just want to be able to flow. I thought VS code was mainly for source edits, not a "designer"
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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It is a simple editor and should work with almost anything if an extension for it exists. I found one, UNOTES - Markdown Notes WYSIWYG[^]. You can check it out and see if it works for you.
You're right, VS code is not a designer but I doubt you'll get both features in a single tool.
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codewitch honey crisis wrote: Ctrl-Z here is the "destroy undo hours of work" feature, not the "undo" feature.
So what's the problem? 
You could mention this in bugs 'n sugs and maybe they'll have an auto save somewhere...
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Sander Rossel wrote: You could mention this in bugs 'n sugs and maybe they'll have an auto save somewhere...
or flesh it out into his next article?
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they have an auto-save. It saved immediately after destroying my work. *headdesk*
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Hah! That's nothing - AmiPro (bless its little cotton socks) used to crash while autosaving.
(And it was still better than Word was, or now is. If it read and wrote DOC and DOCX files, I'd still be using it)
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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hahaha, that's straight up Bethesda softworks level fail right there.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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The problem is doing web work , too many pieces out of your control
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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I use Visual Studio to write article content, and then paste that into the CP editor. That way, I'm pretty much immune to the whims of the CP devs' ideas of how an editor should work. Of course, it might not even be their fault, and they are simply at the mercy of the base control they're using. Whatever the case, I find it more convenient to write the article offline so that I'm in the actual CP article editor for as short a time as I can manage.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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for some reason i have terrible luck trying to get visual studio to edit pure HTML unless i go and use the source by itself.
it just doesn't produce like i like, and it seems to insist on aspnet tags sometimes. it's just annoying. I haven't used it much with 2017 though and I'm not really using 2018 so maybe it improved since I've used it last.
I honestly liked the old devstudio7 editor.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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It looks like crap in VS because you don't have all the CP style sheets. It's just a better editor than anything available online, so that's what I use.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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yeah that's part of it. also i'm using a lot of tables in this article and i hate the way VS shows me tables. Although I think there's a way to change it, I got bored trying to find it.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Connections drops. Sessions time out. My personal rule of thumb: Don't do "hours of work" in a browser, especially when you know it's not designed to persist anything until you invoke some final "commit" function.
I realize this might not be applicable in all cases, but as much as I can, do I all my editing locally, then copy and paste into the control on the page that's waiting for my input. Or I try to go about it the other way around: Periodically copy from the control on the page and paste it back locally into Notepad.
Can you tell I'm speaking from experience? 
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I've done some of it that way, but I don't have a good HTML editor. =/ meh.
at least for wysiwyg html. I don't like mucking with tags while writing an article except to refine
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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codewitch honey crisis wrote: at least for wysiwyg html. I don't like mucking with tags while writing an article except to refine
Same. I tend to write things locally in Notepad and tweak until I'm done, so all I have to do back in the browser is paste, then apply the styling. Although it does suck if you have to re-do that multiple times. What we need (at a minimum) is a WYSIWYG HTML editor that can recognize data coming from such things as Wordpad's RTF control...
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yes to this. Is it really such a big deal? I'd purchase Word if it would spit out sane and simple HTML
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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snort
Word spits out HTML, but it's neither sane nor simple.
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*sigh* I know. I almost want to make a universal XSL stylesheet to strip all the junk but it would be a bear to accomplish
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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yeah i tried. I need a better editor. If i write enough articles maybe i'll buy one.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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