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Not jumping off the sanity boat, I see. 
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Oh, I dived in that lifeboat years ago!
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
f*** me dead! I see what you've done there.
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Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Not happy enough with bloating the unsigned int limit with his red "unread messages", he wants DD counter to blow the unsigned long as that guy did in Youtube with his "gangman style" or however it was called  
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I reckon pyathon is broken, you should use payhton, bro'. 
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#realJSOP wrote: Unless you'tre on the ABSOLUTE BLEEDING EDGE of development, the answer is probably already out there
It looks like I've been on the bleeding edge for my entire career then... yay.
Such is he world of embedded developement (no, not Palm, iOS or Android. Strange stuff, really).
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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I totally and absolutely agree Jsop.
Probably should leave it at that, but...
1.
Gee when I started there wasn't a google. In fact there wasn't an internet.
It was all heavily thumbed and dog eared second hand text books that we bought.
Sometimes a new book if we could afford it.
Guess we could have written a snail mail letter to the author saying URGENT SEND CODE MAYDAY MAYDAY.
2.
Using Google is a skill set every developer should have. Well everyone should have really.
Lets imagine that your QA questioner has actually tried to look up an answer to their issue using their proffered search engine.
"Plz send teh codez" isn't going to give them the correct answer that they are looking for.
Just the order of the search words and the insertion of a special one will usually give you the results that you want.
Usually quite quickly as well.
It is a learnt skill and something to take pride of in its application.
3.
My pet peeve is that many sites do not have any reference to the date of publication.
So you end up with deprecated stuff or something way off the mark and in some other language.
4.
My favourite thing is what you learn when doing it.
The real trick is to focus and not get side tracked.
You get convoluted elephant code methods and then find alternative stuff.
Rapidly or eventually you always find it like you said.
Sometimes I have system.copied.pasted.adjusted and felt guilty.
Just comment the source and move on.
Sometimes I find stuff that I should have remembered as I have done it before.
Sometimes you just see more elegant ways to do things after seeing different methods.
5.
I have never asked any questions on CP or an any other similar site. Never really needed to because of Google.
Never asked another fellow dev a question either as they all work with completely different stuff than me.
Oh hang on I did ask another dev a question once and he said that he didn't know as the question related to code that was written by a tool.
I said, "well tell me the tools name", and he didn't find that funny.
I have certainly asked questions to suppliers of third party libs though.
Sort of felt that if I have paid for something then expect support, if no easy search solves a problem.
Also some of there FAQs and forums are not very searchable, which pisses me off.
Also discovered bugs for them so that is all good.
6.
Some think that when Hello world doesn't print that this is ABE stuff.
Or indeed ABEOD stuff.
You have invented a new buzz word. ABE or Absolute Bleeding Edge.
ABEOD is my Favourite though.
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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At first, it was just books, but then, in about 1990, MS released MSDN in the form of dozens of CDs. Their help disks were amazingly useful, and you got a subscription to MSDN magazine as well. That was the beginning of the end of buying books for me. I wish we'd had google back in the early 80's...
At the same time, having google has caused me to not try to commit stuff to memory any more. This makes interviews fairly troublesome, because they won't let you google for answers. There are too many different APIs, frameworks and tools to commit anything to memory.
I learned how to do .Net, C#, Winforms, WPF, ASP.Net, MVC, and more importantly, to hate Entity Framework, mostly by using google (although hating Entity Framework came along with my recent direct contact with it, and googling to find out that other people hate it, too, and for the same reasons).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Do unwanted pachyderms feel irrelephant?
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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They should just pack a trunk and leave.
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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Tusk, tusk that's just terrible.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Did you think it was just dumbo or a truly mammoth failure?
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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Sure we should- but Ind-i-an its all just African mess.
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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Ear one day, gone the next.
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Ear! Ear!
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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This is a weighty subject. I expect that much ponderous deliberation will be required, and that any conclusions will be trumpeted far and wide.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Can't a guy just raise a family in peace?
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How funny. Dovahkiin heard you with his pointy ears. He was on a hunting trip anyway and shot you one[^]. Now let's see him raise himself.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Because raising Cold Ethel[^] would be sacrilege!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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*singing*
Necromance if you want to.
We can bring your friends to life.
But your friends aren't dead
and if they aren't dead then
they're no friends of mine
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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 I just envisioned a mashup of Men Without Hats singing Thriller...
Software Zen: delete this;
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Haha. I love your sig too.
When I do that these days I think of the meme
https://pics.me.me/delet-this-8292236.png[^]
But also yes, very zen.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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