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How funny. Dovahkiin heard you with his pointy ears. He was on a hunting trip anyway and shot you one[^]. Now let's see him raise himself.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Because raising Cold Ethel[^] would be sacrilege!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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*singing*
Necromance if you want to.
We can bring your friends to life.
But your friends aren't dead
and if they aren't dead then
they're no friends of mine
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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 I just envisioned a mashup of Men Without Hats singing Thriller...
Software Zen: delete this;
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Haha. I love your sig too.
When I do that these days I think of the meme
https://pics.me.me/delet-this-8292236.png[^]
But also yes, very zen.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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When I attempt to click on a folder under the Outlook Calendar option I get the following:
https://i.stack.imgur.com/KoLDT.png[^]
All these years later and still the dialog format is super wide (could've used a \n in there) and the message just seems ridiculous.
Here's the text of the message:
Outlook said: "Cannot expand the folder. The set of folders cannot be opened. Microsoft Exchange is currently busy. If this message is still displayed in 30 minutes, contact your Exchange Administrator."
1. Ok, so to the user "cannot expand the folder" and "set of folders cannot be opened" is just about the same thing so don't be so long-winded.
2. "If this message is still displayed in 30 minutes..." Well, if the user doesn't click the OK button then this message will still be displayed and if they do click the OK button it will not so... 
3. Exchange? I thought I was using Outlook. (From a non-informed user's perspective)
Restart
I sent this to a friend and she said, "Oh, I just restart Outlook whenever that happens."
The solution cracks me up as much as the problem. Why doesn't MS just restart Outlook for me when that happens? It could even say, "We need to restart Outlook now."
Error messages are interesting to me as a dev and I usually get them wrong the first half dozen times too. I always have to go back and keep altering them.
modified 8-Apr-19 7:55am.
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raddevus wrote: Error messages are interesting to me as a dev and I usually get them wrong the first half dozen times too.
We all get them a little wrong at times (usually by writing something that makes more sense to us than the user) but I'd like to bet that no-one here has ever done one quite as badly as this!
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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Quote: "Cannot expand the folder. The set of folders cannot be opened. Microsoft Exchange is currently busy. If this message is still displayed in 30 minutes, contact your Exchange Administrator."
Well, that beats: "It takes 2 hands to handle a whopper" (as in the old Burger King ad).
I encountered that a long time ago. If you can't write good code, have a sense of humor.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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The 30min are interesting.
- Hey Mike, how long shall we let them wait ?
- I guess one hour, depends on the modem speed.
- Sounds about a lot, though.
- Yeah, let's make it 30min, they'll try twice anyway before calling.
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Rage wrote: The 30min are interesting.
I thought the same thing. Perfect example of arbitrary choice of value by dev that makes the user think it has some kind of significance.
Also, waiting 30 minutes doesn't fix it anyways. The immediate fix is to close Outlook and open it again.
Of course, the pop-up doesn't mention that at all. Instead it has the user calling up the admin. 
modified 8-Apr-19 13:15pm.
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raddevus wrote: Of course, the pop-up doesn't mention that at all. Instead it has the user calling up the admin.
Who will tell the user to restart, soo... Kinda the same thing.
On a more serious side note, though: Restarting the program isn't a solution either!
I only have a signature in order to let @DalekDave follow my posts.
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Marco Bertschi wrote: On a more serious side note, though: Restarting the program isn't a solution either!
Agree!
Problem: My car won't start.
Solution *: Buy a new car.
Problem: New car no longer starts either.
Solution *: Buy a new car.
Problem: Newest car won't start and my driveway is full.
Solution **: Buy new house with larger driveway.
Alternate solution: Put gas in each car's gas tank and drive it away.
* solution offered by car sales person
** solution offered by real estate sales person
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Me, To my real estate agent: "I'm looking for a house with a big driveway to store all my cars that won't start"
Me, leaving 10th message: "Why won't you return my calls?"
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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raddevus wrote: Here's the text of the message:Outlook said: "Cannot expand the folder. The set of folders cannot be opened. Microsoft Exchange is currently busy. If this message is still displayed in 30 minutes, contact your Exchange Administrator."
That's what you get when coders create error messages. They tell the user 'what' happened (usually in techno-babble) and leave it to the poor sod of a user to figure out how to fix the problem.
This message should have been something like:
That folder is presently unavailable; please try again later.
Your Outlook administrator has been notified of the problem.
Note the second line of the message - it's not up to the user to complain about it. The app itself notifies the people responsible that the system has fallen down on the job.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Ahh, but some answers are less incorrect... 
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Monitor the prisoner's fish supper? (7)
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Well done - you are up tomorrow!
Thought I'd try an easy one after last week ... 
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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0) Threw out all of the EF6 code not directly associated with they Identity stuff, and replaced it with home-grown ADO code that is faster and smaller, and just as dynamic.
1) Learned that SqlCommand.ExecuteNonQuery ALWAYS returns -1 when you execute a stored proc. I had to write code to add a ReturnValue parameter, and then modify all of the applicable stored procs to return @@ROWCOUNT in order to intelligently handle the number of affected rows.
2) I'm finally making forward progress again. I have the Register/Login stuff about 90% done. Just two more major items left before making the demo.
3) I'm having issues getting my model and a dropdownlist to talk to each other intelligently. I'm just missing some small piece to that puzzle.
3) I still hate Entity Framework, and all its ilk.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Am I the only one who can't see "MVC5" without thinking "Kick out the jams, mother elephanters!"
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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Me Too, 
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I gave up on ORM's before I even started.
Where I used to work we were an ASP + Sql Server shop before the NET framework came out.
Some junior grade web-designer got the boss to let him create a new CMS based on MVC3 with a backend based on LINQ-2-SQL.
I learned C# really quick to troubleshoot the (tunnel vision) errors and another year to replace the backend connection to ADO. Since then I have no desire to try another ORM
Director of Transmogrification Services
Shinobi of Query Language
Master of Yoda Conditional
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Sheesh.
The guys I work with have an app that's pretty much committed to EF, and they have their own DB wrapper DLL that introduces high levels of abstraction. I don't need any of this, and I don't want any of the monster dependencies their DB wrapper requires for my own little utility--which connects to that same DB, but otherwise is pretty much standalone.
I wrote a rather thin wrapper around ADO, and have managed to avoid EF thus far. The other devs know I'm doing this and not using their EF-based wrapper, and have never questioned it or raised any sort of objection.
So...they probably know why.
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