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Dr.Walt Fair, PE13-Feb-19 6:30
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jschell17-Feb-19 5:07
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I'm so tired of government contract work...we don't have the time/desire to do it at work, and you'd think I was trying to hack the freakin Pentagon.


It was my understanding that government contracts were based on dollars for features. Thus if it isn't in the contract then it should not be done in the first place.

To be fair however that is how all contracts work. The developer doesn't get paid to work on what they want - they are paid to work on what the customer wants.

One is of course free to convince the customer that they should want something else. And produce another contract. However that role is seldom one that a developer will be doing.

Somewhat reasonable of course given that normal businesses end up in the situation where they find that a developer has spent the last month working on something that they are sure is better (although often being able to quantify that is non-existent) rather than what they were supposed to be and said they were working on. Not to mention that they fail to consider the actual cost to the business such as impacts like the cost to re-test the entire stack or even actual impacts to customer processes.
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