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ZurdoDev wrote: still in preview.
I know. Better get it soon, before it's obsolete. 
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raddevus wrote: Also, why aren't you on 2019?
The current release date for VS 2019 is March, so what's available is a preview, nothing I'd use for production work.
I don't upgrade in the middle of a project, and rarely before the first service pack is released.
Riding the bleeding edge used to be fun, but I suffered enough blood loss to be light headed. These days I let others do the bleeding ... 
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Give them a few days and see if they push out a new version to fix any problems in the update
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Only a 50/50 chance? Aren't you being a little light on that?
Man, the last time I updated VS2017 it fragged almost EVERYthing.
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James McCullough wrote: Only a 50/50 chance? Aren't you being a little light on that?
Ya, you might be right. It's probably closer to a 70/70 chance.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Now THAT'S the Microsoft logic I'm used to!!! 
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Oldboys have probably heard about the IBM 360 mainframe series. One of the logos used in the 360 days was a circle, with a radius extendig a little outside the circle (looking like a old style potentiometer knob, but nowdays frequently used to mark an on-off pushbutton).
Then came the IBM 370 series. So what did IBM choose as a logo for the 370? A bigger circle!
Acutally, they didn't replace the 360 circle with a bigger 370 circle, they added the 370 circle around the old one, touching where the radius hit the circle(s).
They didn't use this logo a lot; I suspect it was mostly created as an inside joke, but I have come across it a few times in old documentation.
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15.9.4 killed me. I haven't recovered since...PTSD and all. 
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it was faster than expected 2gb and smooth
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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Worked here - but required a restart of Win7, which was unusual.
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I would, but I only install it for the C++ build tools really... VS Code and CMake FTW...
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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This question was inspired by Kent Sharkey's recent comment in The insiders: "Must have 20 years experience in brand-new technology".
How many of you have come across something like this?
Update:
I had one case where they asked for 10 years experience with SQL Server 2008 - this was in 2009. When I pointed out that I had more than 10 years experience with SQL Server and was currently using SQL Server 2008 in my current job, the HR telephone pre-screener said it was very important that the experience be in SQL Server 2008 specifically - when I pointed out the impossibility of this they got very condescending about it, implying that as I didn't have enough of the clearly requested, required experience, I shouldn't be wasting their time!
In another interview, I was asked basically the same question and just lied about it. They accepted this without further questions - so when they offered the job, I turned it down.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
modified 13-Feb-19 9:43am.
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Quote: How many of you have come across something like this?
I've more than 20 years of experience in that.
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Only when .net was new and they wanted developers with at least three years' professional experience with it.
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"20 years experience? Really? Is that hexadecimal, octal or decimal? Anyway, I thought we invented it when I worked on this project five (hex, octal or decimal, your choice) years ago."*
*Say something like that only if you decide to decline during the interview. Then, when they come with something like this:
"I'm very sorry, but I must tell you..."
finish them off with this:
"No need to apologize. The loss is on your part. You just turned away the best man you could possibly get."
Arrogance can be delicious, especially if it's the truth.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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CodeWraith wrote: Arrogance can be delicious, especially if it's the truth.
Yes! I was asked during a therapy session if I really wanted to risk going back to work after having a stroke. I said Of Course, I enjoy my work.
The therapist asked what if you're only able to work at 75% capacity?
I said, 75% of me is better than 100% of my competition.
She asked don't you think that seems arrogant? I replied It's not arrogant if it's true! She relented and I had paying work that afternoon since a client had put a project on hold waiting for me.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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I'm on the verge of doing that at the moment.
Been tooing and froing all day with what I now realise is a recruitment agency, after responding to an email requesting a freelance teacher to deliver one days worth of training to beginners in JavaScript.
I get the feeling that the person answering the emails is of Indian descent (Based on the syntax structure of the writing) so the answers are short and blunt with no meaning, just a stuborn refusal to listen.
They keep pushig and pushing, must have CV or we don't proceed, as I've pointed out to them, I've not written a CV for over 10 years, my employer for the last 7 has been my own limited company.
But nope, Must Have CV in Microsoft Word Format, nothing else is acceptable.
My Linked-in profile, is my CV these days.
So I printed my Li-Profile to a PDF, then saved that PDF as a Word doc, sent that... reply: this is not a CV, this is linked-in, must have CV.
So I'm about to turn round and tell them a) get lost & B) you'll not find a technology trainer, at such short notice (Needed in 10 days time) that has relevent teaching experience, and lives so close to the client...
Bloody idiots, all of them.
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I remember being told of a requirement for 10 years' .NET when .NET was new.
Kevin
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Been there, experienced that myself
Director of Transmogrification Services
Shinobi of Query Language
Master of Yoda Conditional
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Frequently!
The other one I really love is the "let's make a really, really long list of every tech the recruitment twat has ever heard of" game:
The ideal candidate will have worked with: VAX, Hoover, Dyson, SCO-UNIX, HPUX, AIX, XENIX, Multix, C, X (there must be something called X), BCPL, C++, C#, B flat, F# (ooh! Get me! That's quite a new one isn't it?), P-SQL, T-SQL, Java, Javascript (in case it's something different from Java), AS400, I4GL, Informix, HTML, XML, JSON, WCF, WPF, Sinclair BASIC, Excel, Word, Fortran 5, ALGOL, CSS, PC World (I got my laptop from there!), DOS, DR-DOS, Oracle, Ruby on Toast, PHP, PGP, JPEG (Man, I'm on a roll!), Visual Basic, ASP, Apple stuff (Note to self: look up later), Facebook, Amazon, Red Tube, Donkey (it's obscure but my mate told me about it), OS2, PS2, PS3, PS4, X-Box, Windows (I've got Windows on here, it must be a thing), USB stick, Mouse, Keyboard, Hard drive, Floppy Disk, CAD, DVD, DVT, Frisbee, Freeway (Oh, hang on, that was the dog in Hart to Hart - knew I'd learned something in last night's pub quiz), Sharepoint, Biztalk, SMMS, REST, Spandex, Ultravox, MySQL, LINUX, Ubuntu, X-Ray, Yankee, Zulu (Christ! That's a good list! How did I ever fail that CS degree?)
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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I have all of that - except the Apple stuff, I don't do Apple stuff for religious reasons.
Taking the last three items for example:
- I have had experience of several X-rays over many decades, both analog and digital.
- I have had more than 20 years experience of Yankee, several versions (I moved to the US back in the last Millenium!)
- I have had more than 20 years experience of Zulu - it is one of my favourite films!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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When can you start? (Please say last April, we've been advertising for ages!)
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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I did start last April. You need to pay me up right now. Don't ya know.
To err is human to really mess up you need a computer
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