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VLC's OK for video files, but it's not tooled up for audio (e.g. no always-visible equaliser).
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Correct. It misses the "full-fledged" player feel.
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I used to use MPC, but found VLC a bit more up-to-date.
VLC for video files, streaming not so much: often live streaming (particularly radio) just stops and only way out is quit & start again.
(I often like top have some [quiet] live radio while coding,... clementine works really well).
best thing I remember from WinAmp was the tiny-window interface
- really useful back in the days when 1024 X 768 (on 15" monitors) was the hi-res of the day (and most users on 800 x 600)... small interfaces mattered so you had space to see your code.
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Lopatir wrote: best thing I remember from WinAmp was the tiny-window interface
Same here. Just stick it up over a blank bit of the title bar of what you're working in, and Bob's your uncle.
All the other music players integrated that pretty quickly.
My favourite skin for winamp, though, looked like a hi-fi deck, and has separate speakers that pulsed their cones along with the music. I used to arrange my windows so that the speakers were visible.
Total nerd, it's true.
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I never made VLC handle encrypted BD-movies so I "have to" use MPC (which handles it well).
I rip all my DVDs to harddisk, and a small handful of rips won't work with MPC, but they work with VLC. There is another handful that works with MPC but not with VLC. So I must keep them both available.
My major objection to VLC is that if you want to do anything beyond pulling a disk / disk image over the VLC icon to play it, i.e. you take a glimpse on the menus and dialogs, you dive into an ocean of technobabble that is like Greek to anyone who has not worked with the implmenentation of digital video systems. I have been programming for 35 years, but nothing related to digital video, and two thirds of the options make very little sense to me. I wouldn't ever dare to suggest VLC to some non-technical user - he would probably understand less than ten pecent of the options!
MPC-HC has a touch of the same, but definitely not to the same degree. It is far more end user friendly. It is a pity that development has ceased (1.7.13, 19 months old, was announced as the last one that would be released).
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LOL equaliser!!!
In all my teen years, the only valid selling point of a boombox was how many sliders it had for the equaliser!
In the end, we all pull them up to max on all frequencies.
In the last 30 years, at least, I never felt the urge for it.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Well, I'm afraid that I don't like levels that are good for huge speakers in rooms in my house being pounded into my ears through tiny speakers in headphones or earbuds, so an equaliser is an essential tool.
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Winamp was great - I spent more time fiddling about with skins and visualisations than I ever did listening to music through it
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Bingo! You remember there was a time, the viz-plugins upgraded to 3D. Some of them were wonderful.
That was one of the grandest news, during the classic Windows Applications days. 
And I love the re-size & magnetic behavior of the player window frames, with Equalizer & Playlist.
That's a typical, slick Win32 Application.
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Sure, but that can be googled. What's your opinion?
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Not much of an opinion I'm afraid, long ago, in XP times I was very fond of the Windows MediaPlayer and had everything categorized nicely and added missing covers, but ... after updating to Windows 7 my whole configuration was gone !
You can guess what I think now of the Windows MediaPlayer, never used it again, I rely on an old IPod Touch to play my mp3 files 
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RickZeeland wrote: You can guess what I think now of the Windows MediaPlayer, never used it again, I rely on an old IPod Touch to play my mp3 files
heh. You're as bad as me.
In my kitchen, I've got a pair of ancient-but-decent left-over computer speakers and an old, cheap-as-dirt mp3 player hanging down from them. They do the trick, so I've never even considered replacing them.
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 Old speakers never die. I have the same set up. funny.
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I used to prefer one that I won't name, because it became adware, but Quintessential Media Player (dev discontinued, but it works, so they stopped fixing it) is, to me, nicer to use than winamp, and there are lots of others that are good -- foobar 2000, kmplayer, etc.
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I liked how Spotify automatically keeps the same playlist on my telephone as on my pc.
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Hell yeah I still use it!
It's the first item on my taskbar 
The "new future for Winamp" was announced back in 2014 or 2015 or something, but nothing changed for years.
This new v5.8 is the first I've heard since then, but maybe I'll just stick to v5.666 because it work fine for me 
Now I WOULD be willing to try a new v6!
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You are a real Winamper! 
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It has treated me right since I switched from WMP back in 2000/2001
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Cheers!
You know there were times, I aspired to write some basic plugins for Winamp. It never happened though. 
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It seems you're getting a second chance 
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Sander Rossel wrote: It seems you're getting a second chance
It's mutual !
I just gave WinAmp the second chance. It's been doing fairly well 
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I have almost always used and still use Winamp for music. During a time I used "mpc star" but it didn't convinced me and went back to Winamp.
If Winamp is the best media player or not... I can't tell. But it is the one I like most.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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It STILL really whips the llama's ass!
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I use MediaMonkey largely becasue it runs on my Android device and on Windows.
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