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Richard MacCutchan wrote: I am far too old to want to listen to heavy metal rock. And I never cared for it when I was younger.
Back when music was two rocks banged together?
Michael Martin
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Ok for their age, but subjectively speaking they're fairly poor. Songs are basic, generic, derivative. The guitarist has simply stolen the Foo Fighters tuning which makes it all sound odd. It's just as well these are three teenage Mexican girls...if they were benefiting from white male privilege they'd get zero attention whatsoever.
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In their previous TEDx appearance they do in fact cover a Foo Fighters song. I'm not familiar with the Foo Fighters so I can't assess your specific claim.
But what were you expecting to hear? The next Stairway to Heaven at their first attempt?
I like them but taste is subjective.
But re: derivative I'd say lots of artists' first music is derivative in the sense that it shows their influences or sounds familiar. Indeed, when we hear something new we often try to relate it to something familiar. Then over a period of time the artists often, though not always, carve out their own distinctive style, which might still not be apparent to the casual listener in fact.
But even derivative material can nevertheless sound musically good. Rush's debut album could be said to be derivative of Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple and Ten Years After. I still think it's good. And later on Rush became highly distinctive.
Kingdom Come were even more a blatant Led Zep clone. Again, they sounded good. Again, over time they acquired a distinctive melodic riff-driven style.
Mostly Autumn are heavily influenced by Pink Floyd with many, especially early songs, being almost indistinguishable. They're also influenced by a bunch of other stuff spanning classic rock and folk. Yet they too acquired a distinctive style, even while no two successive albums are similar.
The Warning's recent second album, Queen of the Murder Scene, is a step up over their debut imo and certainly is the best rock, as opposed to heavy metal or prog rock, I've heard for a few years at least.
Re: the white privilege quip, I know that Western culture is currently dominated by far left ideas but really?
If you don't like them that's fine but I don't think this applies here. It's more that they are young girls playing rock music independently of a Simon Cowell-type machine.
Kevin
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Let me be less ambiguous 
They are a below average band who are only getting the attention and opportunities because they are young girls from a politically "hot" area. If they were a bunch of people that "progressives" don't salivate over they would get no attention and no opportunity at all. I predict that when their popularity wanes one or more will "come out" or "transition" or pull some other BS stunt to get them back into the limelight as if you pander to "progressives" you get mainstream attention.
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I thought I was quite measured in my response.
I don't mind that you don't like them. Tastes differ. But I think your analysis is pure BS. They aren't even popular yet. They're fairly obscure. No record contract. Barely reviewed.
People "salivate" over them because they like them. They come from Mexico, yes, and they sing in English. But it could equally have been that they were white and came from Austria and sing in English, like the MonaLisa Twins. Would interest in them be due to progressivism?
FWIW, I'm not a "progressive." On the contrary, I think the currently dominant part of the progressives in the West can be more accurately described as regressive left.
Kevin
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Ok, I guess the fact that a below average band is getting so much attention, more than unknown bands that are actually good, is simply down to public tastes and nothing at all to do with the novelty of the band's members.
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I spent much of my youth playing drums in rock / indie bands, but we were never this good. Excellent stuff! Thanks for the heads up on them, I'll be keeping my eyes open for them  
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There's lots of material at their YouTube channel.
The Warning - YouTube
They have an EP and two studio albums now. Plenty of concert footage around. They've opened for Def Leppard and The Killers.
Kevin
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I was actually checking out their stuff on Youtube last night. I watched them opening for The Killers.
That drummer seriously kicks ass. They're really good
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Nice. Good for them.
I would pay $$ to see them live, sure.
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They've also improved since then. An EP and two full albums now - all written by themselves.
The Warning - YouTube
Kevin
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Boring. Nice voice, bad singing, horrible guitar.
They may improve though.
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den2k88 wrote: They may improve though.
That's the whole point, isn't it. Encouraging the young to succeed in what they love to do. At least I think so.
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Yes it is - that doesn't mean I have to unconsensually consort with my ears to do so 
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True. It is often times challenging for me to keep a straight face with my own children when they want to play music, or do a theatrical skit, or show me some art work, that is well, um, needing of improvement.
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Go for things like "where did you learn how to do that?" and "you must have practised a lot -- I'm told it gets easier, the more you do it", rather than saying it's "pretty good", or similar.
The danger with artistic stuff is that if you tell someone that their inexperienced attempts are pretty good, what they take away is "IT'S PERFECT!!! NO-ONE IS AS TALENTED AS YOU ARE!!!!", and that really doesn't do them any favours.
Make it a discussion, not an insincere compliment.
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Yes. I found it interesting watching their progression from their cover of Metallica's Enter Sandman a few years ago until late 2018/2019. Or, a few years before that covering Brahms on the piano.
Kevin
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When I saw "Napalm Records" I already knew it was going to be good - they're the only major discographic house I can say I really like.
The song is great - not exactly my genre but some black/gothic/doom metal is always well received here
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The Warning don't claim to be metal. I'd describe them more as rock/hard rock. Their second album, Queen of the Murder Scene, is heavier than the TEDx stuff and heavier than their first, XXI Century Blood, but it's still not metal. But it is good. All depends what you're looking for. I like rock in general from soft through prog to conventional heavy metal. it just has to be good!
Kevin
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Cheers. Another discovery.
Kevin
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