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Here in the UK we also have the chip (or should that be 'crisp'?) on the card. It allows you to buy things up to £30.00 in value just by holding the card near the reader. The time lag is usually very short, so quite a good system.
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Well, we are obviously doing it wrong. 
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That works well until you use your card to scrape the ice off your windscreen - I haven't had contactless for a while now
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I tried scraping the ice off my windscreen with my local store loyalty card - But I only got 20% off! 
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Get one of these: ICEPLANE Twin Bladed Car Ice Scraper: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike[^] - I've been using one for about two years, and they are excellent. Not only do you not break the card, but they sheer off the ice at a good rate, better than any other scraper I've tried. Only drawback is that you need good gloves or the scrapped off ice will freeze your fingers solid...
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Every time I buy an actual ice scraper the weather warms up
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Please, go out and buy a dozen. Every Monday until June ... then start again in September 
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I like cold weather 
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You can ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) ing have my portion!
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No, no no. Everyone knows you should pour boiling water onto your windscreen when it's frozen. 
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: Everyone knows you should pour boiling water onto your windscreen when it's frozen.
Come on, Richard, everyone knows you can't be both boiling and frozen at the same time! It's one or the other.
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was the "it" at the end of the sentence referring to the boiling water
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was the "it" at the end of the sentence referring to the windscreen (windshield in America)
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That is the $64,000 question. 
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Don't laugh, when I was a kid driving to the Oz snowfields (I lived in Sydney where it never snows and barely gets cold) the windscreen started to fog up so I hit the windscreen washer - instant whiteout as the liquid froze onto the windscreen at 120km per hour. Scared the crap out of me!
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I have done that at low speed (<30 mph), but never on a fast road. I was also riding my motorbike one cold night with the visor open, and as soon as I closed it my glasses fogged up. Now that was scary.
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In theory that could possibly work, but having read the which article before, I doubt it. The reader would need to be almost touching my card, but which pocket do I keep it in?
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Four inches or so? Not impossible (or even close) on some tube trains. And most besuited fellows have two pockets it is most likely to be in: left and right breast.
If you don't get a signal, move your handbag / manbag / whatever.
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Not impossible, no. But the likelihood that even if you could read someone's card, you could do anything with the data, is quite low.
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I have a nice setup (about 25x25 cm - so not small but easily can be carried around) that can read RFID from a distance of 9 meters...
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Yes, but what use is that information?
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Do not know. Never used it to collect - it is part of a prototype I built for a project never took place...
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: a project never took place.
I always find they are the best type.
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Interesting. 25cm x 25cm for 9 meters.
Thank-you!
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