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the current layer is a property of the view, so it only change from user interaction..
What annoys me is that everytimes I make a new document (which comes with its own view), I have to select the right layer and tools for my testing... fair enough one can say.. but the default layer and tool for a map doesn't allow mouse editing! (only zoom and pan)
so the new map experience is: I make a map and .. I can't do anything!  
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Did it! 
Every time I change layer and tool I store last value into a user settings storage
And new map take their default from that!
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Mm...
me think.. I didn't show all tool on purpose (they are big button with title)...
I should somehow save current / default layer / tool ...
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Mmm... in a way the whole thing already behave like some kind of custom tab (or outlook bar?), come to think of it!  
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Now that it appears to me that you have found a way to do it ... Allow me to ask a related question:
I use SketchUp a lot. What is called "layers" in SketchUp is not really layers, but distinct sets of 3D objects; you may check off whether one layer (i.e. object set) is to be displayed or not. They are not ordered or hiearchical in any way. In the same (non-modal) dialog box, you also select one active layer, where all your new drawing primitives are added.
My problem: The active layer may change if I breathe too hard. Or when I look in another direction. Or switch another layer on. Or... Sure, the list of actions that actually changes the active layer is not that long, nevertheless I over and over draw to the wrong layer. I have made it a habit whenever I end a working session to display layers one by one, alone, to see if I have put anything into it that should be moved to another layer. Much too often, there is something to move.
You SketchUp users out there (I assume that there are quite a few - SketchUp is great, once you have learned to handle it): Can you provide any helpful hints for how to prevent lines and surfaces and objects to be drawn in the wrong layer? Or do you have the same problem? Or is it just me? (well... most likely it is  )
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Have you looked at how other graphics programs, such as Paint.NET, do layers? That may give you ideas.
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Hey, thanks for your answer.
I did, and it's not really helping since all layers have the same set of tools.
I improved it by remember last layer type and tool used and using that as default for new document
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Take a look at Worldographer[^] and its predecessors, by Inkwell Ideas.
You can reach me at my gmail address, bryan.and.mag, if you want to discuss offline. I have no idea which RPGs you are targeting (not that that it matters) -- I publish in the AD&D/OSRIC/OSR arena.
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I was in the Worldographer kickstarter, but haven't done much with it. I still do most of my maps with paper-n-pencil, unless I'm publishing. Joe (author) has stated that Cityographer functionality will be rolled into it soon.
Keep going on yours -- there's always room for a better program.
==
I DM an AD&D campaign for my sons, been doing it since they were young. Currently I play in my elder son's 5E campaign (yeah, been playing long enough I grew my own DM! ), although he's thinking of started a Call of Cthulhu campaign -- never played that before, but I'm open to trying.
If you want new material for D&D, try & Magazine: https://and-mag.com/
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Ho.. nice!
I sent you an email through the CodeProject email, hopefully you'll get it!
Feel free to respond if you are interested in testing an early preview in January!
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Yeah, you've got the same basic problem as Blender -- a context-sensitive user interface. Those are always hard to use because there's no clues about where you need to go to get the tool you want to use next.
A better UI would be to provide groups of controls for each layer. Display all the groups, but disable the ones you can't use at the moment. Display the groups in some manner reminiscent of the ordering of the layers. Since there's probably a lot of them, you'll need to figure out some way to shrink (but not completely hide) the disabled groups of tools.
Hope that helps.
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Oh... damn I don't have Blender! Although.. it is free I think, right? I should check it out...
You gave me some idea though...
I think i might have an (additional) layer drop down in the tool sections where is also display all tools for each layers
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Yeah, Blender is free. As you learn it, notice that all the tutorials are given in terms of hot-key sequences. To experience the world's worst user interface, try to do them without using any hot key sequences. It is possible -- everything available from a hot key is available someplace on a menu -- but its really difficult to figure out how to get to the menu with the entry you want on it.
Teaching myself 3DSMax and 3D modeling concepts at the same time was a piece of cake compared to figuring out how to find the menu entry that would let me do what I wanted to do in Blender.
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Yeah.. I'd like to avoid that kind of user experience!  
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If you glue a rodent to your upper lip, is that a mousetache?
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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And then if you accidentally swallow it...
...is it a mouse stash?
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
modified 10-Dec-18 11:10am.
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Make sure the rodent is dead!
Muhammad Umair
www.linesperday.com
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Won't that make it smell rather a lot?
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Yes, I smell a rat here
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Yes, make sure that it is old enough.
Muhammad Umair
www.linesperday.com
Learn great things about programmers, programming and object oriented design
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That comment has a (NSFW) double meaning in Norwegian...
"Mouse", in Norwegian, is a slang term for certain female body parts.
The mouse should be at least 16 years old, if you want to touch it with your lips.
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I don't know how that Vole turn out, but what the hell! Gopher it!
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