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The art of telling managers what to do, difficult is. Much pain in your future I see.
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That's odd - all this time and I didn't know you worked here! Right down to the insurance industry reference.
How I manage this? By knowing as little as possible about how the company does business. Applications are written so abstractly that don't care and thus, when they once again change their minds, it absorbs it into its not-caring arms. The payback for them is that things get done amazingly quickly. For me - it makes me feel artistic when I can create something so agnostic about how it is applied.
Leaving floats in and out of my consciousness. Raises are very few and far between. I can retire whenever I wish. And - there's not even anyone close to a backup.
Lesson? Not intending to be political, but this is amongst the failings of capitalism: a short-term outlook. Now that's not actually the fault of that economic system, but add into the mix that it's people making the decision and in a hurry to quickly line their pockets and you have a recipe for frustration and failure. I don't think the outcome would be any better under socialism; the route changed, perhaps, but the destination (for us of the working class) is always the same. Basically, "it's a paycheck" mentality.
Bottom line (literally and figuratively) - don't kick yourself - it was done far more to you then you did it to yourself.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Raises are very few and far between
I was less than amused to hear that no bonuses were being given out to employees in 2017, yet, there in a public record filing, is a $1.3M bonus for the CEO. Riiiight.
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Hear I dance at the edge of the Soapbox: for all the big corportate tax break, very few regular employees saw any of it. Sure - a few big "news" items, like higher minimums at a few places (like Amazon) but that money, as usual, didn't trickle down. I only dare post this here as I'm not blaming either party for what corporate "leader" do: business as usual.
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Marc Clifton wrote: But then I get back to smacking myself -- I know better. I should have taken the initiative to request code reviews. I should have utilized this really smart person's knowledge and skill better.
Probably no call for you to smack yourself. After all, would they have actually had time to do that? If they're any good, their dance card is probably already overflowing.
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It really doesn't matter, companies always find a way with their business...or fold... or outsource the work to some other company that has the developers to handle such stuff.Or even throw it away.
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: I don't believe it is the job of a senior developer to try and change the management teams priorities.
And yet they would ask me for suggestions on improving processes. All of which was shot down, and of course I'm wise and jaded enough to know that whenever I hear management say "we want to hear from YOU!" that it's really only a way for them to find out who the boat rockers and dissenters are.
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Sympathy. It sounds so familiar, even the insurance part.
You do what you can, no regrets. They got their moneys worth.
Learn, move on, enjoy. You leave your legacy behind.
Best wishes.
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Just accept it as part of life and work.
One could always strive for perfection, but there's always other people and lack of time coming in the way.
Reading your post and previous posts I can say that in my opinion you've done more than what could/should be expected.
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Could be worse.
You could have done a good job, and get punished for it, because you're going against the status-quo. My current projects does that and it sucks.
Oh well, it's just one project. It either ends next year or I quit the job.
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Make sure the db admin has your contact information and knows you'll be a reference for her so when she's looking to leave that sinking ship she has at least one reference for her next job search. Other than that, don't look back.
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Tell them you'll be available for (remote) "support" ... at a reasonable rate, etc.
(I was on-call 2 weeks into my first job ... one survives.)
"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then".
― Blaise Pascal
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Hi All,
Working on time critical project, all going well and then management. The last project I worked on escaped management interference and was delivered early and under budget (  ). So when I started on the upgrade I followed the same procedure as before, Test, find fault, tell the developer of the fault (to ensure they hadn't got to far out of the 'zone'), rasie ticket & fault is fixed everybody happy. Then my Boss is told by 'Management' to tell me she had complaints that I was disturbing the software dept. So I stop disturbing the software dept and am asked at the next stand up why I haven't been reporting faults, haven't I found any... So normal service resumes until said management type get involved again. I give up!
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Doesn't your company have a bug tracking system that's available to developers ?
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RickZeeland wrote: Doesn't your company have a bug tracking system that's available to developers ?
Yes, Management. Didn't you read his rant.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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So raising a ticket is already considered "bothering development" ? 
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You are as lost as I am, I think this management person is either trying to prove to new overlords they are useful or trying to justify there existence...
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glennPattonWork wrote: she had complaints that I was disturbing the software dept
Then please, please stop preventing everybody from doing their work.
Now that you mention it, it is the same here, we always get interrupted by customer contracts and customer requests and customer this and customer that. Do we really need customers ? They are such a nuisance, keep interfering...
modified 20-Nov-18 7:07am.
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Customers are great, they don't know what they want but they want it NOW! 
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glennPattonWork wrote: they want it NOW!
Wow! How have you managed to beat them down to such reasonable deadlines? Ours usually want it YESTERDAY at the latest. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Years ago, I worked in an office next to a sales person named Thelma, a beautiful blonde older lady who wasn't always there, if you catch my drift.
One Monday she dropped an awesome line.
She had a client on the speaker phone, going over a change order that he wanted to get done as fast as possible.
The conversation went something like this:
Thelma: So, when do you need this done?
Customer: I need this done yesterday!
Thelma: Well, I'm sorry, sir, but we're closed on Sundays!
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Speaking for development, "Please bother us!"
Like most developers, I'd much rather have someone in the company discover a problem than have a customer scream about it later. The former is far less personally embarrassing and painful. Oh, and yeah, its good for the company too
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I know, I did development for many years before I became a tester. I only really became a tester as it was the only job on offer...  . Seem to be good at it, as I report issues before they get include in a build that is release...
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