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That's part of it; my wife assumes all tasks require zero time and zero money.
Heaven help me if I reply "One thing at a time, please."
Software Zen: delete this;
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My thanks to each and all who contributed to a previous thread which I started on the topic of face recognition.
Today I encountered this page...
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/cognitive-services/face-api/
It is a truly attractive deal, if I understand it; which I quite probably don't.
Short version: For small operators, Microsoft says they won't charge anything for their Face API.
If I'm reading their page properly, it appears that you get...
- 30,000 (thirty thousand) "transactions" per month
- A detection speed of twenty faces per minute
I'm still learning what a "transaction" is and I'm trying to figure out how their API would work with the other parts of the (currently non-existent) system in mind.
Truly, this looks like it could get us started on a really good system.
Then again, it also looks like great bait on a very sharp hook.
=== QUESTIONS FOR THE SMART BRIGADE ===
- Has any reader here taken Microsoft up on this offer ?
- What questions am I failing to ask ?
- Who else can provide such an API ?
- Do I really want someone else's API ?
- What do you know that I don't ?
- How hard is the API to incorporate ?
- e.g., How many lines of code did you have to write ? (e.g., to interface between the camera, the database, whatever)
- What do I need to know before I start talking to Microsoft ?
- What haven't I considered at this point ?
I'm the novice here, feel free to display superior knowledge. (Please, educate me)
modified 12-Nov-18 3:13am.
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WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING AT US TODAY?
The CAPS key is the one on the left above SHIFT ...
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING AT US TODAY?
If all-caps in the title is not polite around here, I will correct that.
I thought it was normal fare.
I will correct
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C-P-User-3 wrote: Do I really want someone else's API ?
You have been doing that for a long time; the WinAPI.
While I dislike dependencies, I don't think that you want to make an excercise of not using api's.
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: You have been doing that for a long time; the WinAPI.
Project killed.
Hey, Let's revive that project.
Okay, until we kill it again.
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Please feel free to share your detailed system design document and we will get back to you.
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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Smirk ! 
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Just looked at OpenCV.
Their front page has this...
"...*Quote: Usage ranges from interactive art, to mines inspection, stitching maps on the web or through advanced robotics.
Didn't see anything about face recognition. Do they have a section on that topic ?
I'll poke around a few minutes.
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Thank you.
Voted up.
System doesn't allow me to vote it up twice (else I would).
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ALARM CLOCK
My Android Phone alarm clock app just failed me this week; colossal failure.
(Of course, it was my fault for not remembering one of the seventeen Android Phone options while I was in the ultra zonk quasi-conscious state of mind trying to get into bed without falling, etc.)
I am now convinced that I should buy a completely separate device.
I went looking to see what's out there, checking...
- eBay
- Amazon
- Target
- Sony
- Timex
- WalMart
I was expecting to find 10 or 20 models, perhaps 30.
My expectations were exceeded; greatly so.
Perhaps I should be delighted that I have so many choices.
There are certainly hundreds of different alarm clocks; a thousand wouldn't surprise me at all.
The Android is indeed a very clever device, but there are so many conflicting options, that it's quite easy (as I proved to myself this week) to confuse yourself and make the whole thing one big fail.
I think I should go Low-Tech on the alarm clock idea.
Wondering what others here might think.
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I have two three four alarm clocks:
1) My Android phone. It just works.
2) A "proper" clockwork alarm clock. Generally not needed, mostly goes off when I am already downstairs.
3) The Sun. It shines, I wake up.
4) The cat. It wants food, I get up or I'm in both trouble and pain.
90% of the time, 3 and 4 are racing each other to wake me up. It's like they were synchronised together ...
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: The cat
Just what I was going to say - get a cat!
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Cat ? Bah ! Humbug !
Can a cat project the digital time image on the ceiling in color-changing patterns ?
Can a cat show the image on glass fibers ?
Can a cat awaken you with your choice of three different soothing sounds ? Like ocean waves played over a two-inch mid-range speaker ?
Nope; it's high technology that we all need this day.
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OriginalGriff wrote: 3) The Sun. It shines, I wake up.
Currently working nights and sleeping days
OriginalGriff wrote: 1) My Android phone. It just works.
You haven't experienced my last week's big fail.
Evidently, (who can be sure of anything with Android ?) I had some setting messed up.
I think I needed the thing to be quiet for ninety minutes, and he stayed quiet for
eternity.
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We've gone retro with the Casio PQ-10D-8REF - about £7 in the UK.
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Hi all,
Once you finish a project, how do you give/send the customer the job you've done?
A) Shared at OneDrive or any other public cloud system and *
B) Shared at a folder in your NAS or server and *
C) you give the customer a CDROM/DVDROM and *
D) you give the customer a pendrive and *
E) ?
* Sign down some documents to formalize the acceptance.
Thank you all! 
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I've never given the customer the project when its finished.
OK, that sounds weird. What I mean is, the customer gets incremental releases, usually direct access to the code repo, and I help them build the app from the source code if necessary. If the client is way to non-tech to build the code, then they get a DropBox link. If it's a web app, I'll have a production site and a test site for new features being developed that they can visit, usually for UI layout playing around, and for behavioral changes, I'll route a special test account to the test pages under development.
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Joan M wrote: how do you give/send the customer the job you've done
In a pink box usually, with a thankyou note. 
Continuous integration.testing.new features means that by the end of the project the client has the code.
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When I was in Automation:
Once I finished the project and (if applicable) the documentation. (Yes, I had customers who didn't wanted to pay the part "docu" to spare a few bucks)
Made a copy of the running PLC Software and all configurations for the peripheric elements and put everything together in a CD.
Printed out a copy of the documentation (if applicable), annexed a copy of the signed completion certificate / acceptance protocol.
Handed over everything.
Bye bye
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Print out a hardcopy of all the code, have it bound in book-form, and sign it. Make sure to provide it in PDF-form too, so they can download your code to an e-reader.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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just burn the source tree onto a dvd and tell them to keep it in a safe place
(really just the source tree and nothing else: no notes, no list of required etc... can figure that out themselves if they want to self/get someone else to work on it.)
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