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Look I'm not here to convince you otherwise, you have your standpoint and i will respect that, even if i don't agree with it.
My only request is to not bash on others for their personal preferences. if there was constructive criticism over a language feature, I have no issue with, but to say something is just "crap" is not helpful and will lead to angering others for no purpose what so ever.
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VB is used in-house, making the software carrying the company forward.
C-ish languages used by experts, for boxed software, and for contractor work, carrying their company forward.
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I would debate that, this stems from the old long debate of VB6 vs. C++.
I use to develop industrial control systems that controlled directly to the IO with VB.Net and had several hundred installations. the difference between c# and vb.net is not a lot. both are good languages, and both had good features, both have their own benefits, what it actually comes down to is do you prefer "{}" or "if, end if"; it still compiles down to the same IL.
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13 is the age when one should be moving from VB to a programming language. No later than puberty. 
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Boom tish!
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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VB is OK as long as you still work in your parents' basement.
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This thread is about VB.NET, which can express virtually everything that C# can express, albeit with a wordier syntax.
Do you mean that C# is not a real programming language?
Or do you mean that VB6 / VBA is not a real programming language (which I could get behind, if not entirely agree with)?
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I'd have to argue that VBA is a real programming language, but that it's limited by the host application. VBA in Excel is extremely powerful. VBA in Word has been lobotomized.
VB6 was good for what it was intended to do and represents a completely different era of Windows programming.
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You mean the Excel and Word object models, respectively. You can easily access the Word object model from Excel, and the Excel object model from Word. You can also access both object models from an external program/script -- .NET languages, Python, VBScript, JScript and others. I think the limitations of these object models are independent of the language.
VBA (and VB6) is limited in that it doesn't have a first-class-function mechanism (AddressOf doesn't count, as AFAICT there is no way to call such a function pointer from VBA), nor does it have a lambda function syntax. This means that LINQ/FP-style data processing is impossible in VBA/VB6, and filtering / sorting / projecting any collection of data involves nested For Each and conditional blocks.
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Ahem
Quote: There's no Visual Basic 13.0 nor VC++ 13.0.
Real programmers do use g++.
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The Number of Love[^]
Agile + JIRA + Storyboard => Bollywood Manager
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Talent3d Software Developer
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Have you considered FORTRAN 19? I've heard that it's hard to find machines to punch Hollerith cards these days, but I'm sure that they can be located on Alibaba.com. If you can't find it, I think I still have a copy of Visual C++ 1.4 in my stockpile; I'll be happy to send it along, if I can find it, and you're feeling nostalgic.
You'll find, as you travel, that few hotels have a 13th floor; I prefer to stay in those that do, simply because I'm a bit contrarian. Most of the good things that have happened in my life happened on Friday, the 13th, so I have no irrational fear of that arbitrary date.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Friday 13th has always been lucky for my family, my Granddad was rescued for the sea twice(!) on Friday 13th in World War One (he was plucked out of the sea once and then that ship was sunk! so, maybe not as lucky as he could have been but...).
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Developers and simple arithmetic: never the twain shall meet.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Yes they were.
Both VB.Net 13.0 and C++ 13.0 were ready for release in VS 2014 code name Dev 13.
However it only worked on Windows 9.
Windows 9 release was killed by Windows 10 which was released midway through 2015.
So VS 2014, VB.Net 13.0, C++ 13.0 and Windows 9 were effectively all fake news.
There is a reason for everything.
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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That's the only dumb VB fact you have? 
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Another fact:
SAP has dedicated it's version 13 of Crystal reports to Visual studio, making it's normal release 14 without official skipping 13 
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Wow! Looking at this thread suggests that any VB facts should be posted in Soapbox
<sig notetoself="think of a better signature">
<first>Jim</first> <last>Meadors</last>
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I remember a company needing to change a product name in China as the original name contained 250 which reads as "bad luck" or "death" (one of those) in Chinese. My favorite is still the MR2 car which sold rather poorly in France.
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just like high rise buildings!!
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Did the composer buy a violin Vivaldi money he made?
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Bach, humbug!
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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I don't think I can Handel any more of this!
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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Note that I find myself Offenbach on the same link to ToTD. Still quite sure I coda Handel this post as with the others.
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