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nedo_0076-Nov-18 20:40

6-Nov-18 20:40

Why not give golang a try (go for backend and templeting, your js framework of choice for the frontend, mysql/postgresSQL for the db)

Re: Not MS!

Jacquers6-Nov-18 22:16

Jacquers

6-Nov-18 22:16

Angular 5+ with TypeScript
PostgreSQL

.Net Core web api (it's ms, but can run on Linux)

Re: Not MS!

maze36-Nov-18 23:44

maze3

6-Nov-18 23:44

attempt it all in Javascript, front, middle and back.
full web page only via javascript (no css or html files, if that even possible to load js without an html page?)
node.js
mongodb

Re: Not MS!

Bruce Patin7-Nov-18 3:59

Bruce Patin

7-Nov-18 3:59

I highly recommend PostgreSQL instead of MySQL. The stored proc code is object oriented. The whole thing is very logical. The only thing good about MySQL is that it is a little more available on web hosting services.

Re: Not MS!

crazedDotNetDev7-Nov-18 4:56

crazedDotNetDev

7-Nov-18 4:56

I’ve been a fan of Ubuntu[^] for a few years now. It’s got good support and is solid enough for everything I’ve needed so far.

As for Database…
• MS SQL[^] is just amazing.
• MySQL[^] is adequate for most needs.
• SQLite[^] is very small and portable.
• PostgreSQL[^] has tons of cool add-on features.

As for Languages…
• I’m all-in for .NET Core[^] & Standard. Nothing else matters.
• But if I ever leave .NET, I’ll probably go for C++. I hear it’s not the C++ I knew in the 90s.

Re: Not MS!

Gerry Schmitz7-Nov-18 5:10

Gerry Schmitz

7-Nov-18 5:10

If you're "not into MS", then it's (usually) the "LAMP" stack: Linux; Apache (web server); MySql; PHP.

Since you are not into PHP, you will need to find another language that starts with "P".

Me, instead of the "woodman's" approach, will stick with MS and electric power tools.

AI platform - Microsoft AI

"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then".
― Blaise Pascal

Re: Not MS!

R. Giskard Reventlov7-Nov-18 5:41

R. Giskard Reventlov

7-Nov-18 5:41

Oh I am most certainly an MS-fanbois - have been since day one! I just feel like trying something new and different; you know, to spice codey things up a bit. Smile | :)

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Re: Not MS!

icemanind7-Nov-18 8:15

icemanind

7-Nov-18 8:15

I recommend going toward Node.JS. It's fast and efficient and it's got a lot of good libraries and frameworks to support it. If you are comfortable with NoSQL databases, I'd recommend using MongoDB as your back end database. If you are more of a SQL guy, I'd recommend MySql. As far as AI goes, if you go with Node, you can use Tensor Flow!

Oh Microsoft Edge, you so funny

charlieg6-Nov-18 3:58

charlieg

6-Nov-18 3:58

So, I'm setting up a new Windows 10 VM to work with a client. Using edge to access my outlook 365, it's slow, it's dodgy, and it's hung at the moment trying to send something.

Okay, say hello to my little friend firefox. The bing results informs me that "Microsoft Edge is the faster, safer browser on Windows 10 and it is already installed on your PC"

D'Oh! | :doh:

Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...

"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
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Re: Oh Microsoft Edge, you so funny

lopatir6-Nov-18 4:03

lopatir

6-Nov-18 4:03

charlieg wrote:
"Microsoft Edge is the faster, safer browser on Windows 10 and it is already installed on your PC"

there we go, bashing ms again!
... you can't get much safer then non functioning.
so there!

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Re: Oh Microsoft Edge, you so funny

charlieg6-Nov-18 4:21

charlieg

6-Nov-18 4:21

shutting laptop down, going to start landscape business....

Re: Oh Microsoft Edge, you so funny

Gary Wheeler6-Nov-18 6:43

Gary Wheeler

6-Nov-18 6:43

charlieg wrote:
going to start landscape business....

Why not try a portrait business instead? Inside work, no heavy lifting, and the worst thing you have to deal with are the fussy parents of neurotic high school seniors.

Software Zen: delete this;

Re: Oh Microsoft Edge, you so funny

DRHuff6-Nov-18 7:56

DRHuff

6-Nov-18 7:56

I could picture myself doing that...

Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)

Re: Oh Microsoft Edge, you so funny

Richard Deeming6-Nov-18 4:33

Richard Deeming

6-Nov-18 4:33

charlieg wrote:
The bing results informs me that "Microsoft Edge is the faster, safer browser on Windows 10 and it is already installed on your PC"

At least you didn't "bing" for Chrome:
Microsoft has been serving a malware-filled Chrome link through Bing[^]
D'Oh! | :doh:

"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer

Re: Oh Microsoft Edge, you so funny

W∴ Balboos, GHB6-Nov-18 8:48

W∴ Balboos, GHB

6-Nov-18 8:48

I just used bing to search for "Chrome Browser" and "FireFox"

Both gave me quite respectable results - nothing like what you (and chrome ref, below) are mentioning.

I feel a bit cheated.

Ravings en masse^
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

Re: Oh Microsoft Edge, you so funny

charlieg6-Nov-18 9:11

charlieg

6-Nov-18 9:11

Well, it gets funnier. So, I'm on a conf call with IT Support. Seems they can't get Skype for Business to work for me. He fires up team viewer, and the first thing he does? Closes Edge, runs IE11. I wonder what he knows I don't?

Smile | :)

From the Museum of Ugly Code

raddevus6-Nov-18 2:57

raddevus

6-Nov-18 2:57

When you see this, it only takes a few extra seconds to think about what the dev intends.
But... Dead | X|

JavaScript

for (;!objSourceSubFolders.atEnd(); objSourceSubFolders.moveNext()) {
    // do something with the files in the folder.
}

First of all, not sure why you need to use Hungarian notation to signal that this is an obj.

But, more importantly, does the dev not know of the existence of the while loop? Or did he think this was an innovative approach? Sigh | :sigh:

Look how much simpler this is to read.

JavaScript

while (!sourceSubFolders.atEnd()){
    // do something with files in the folder
    sourceSubFolders.moveNext();
}

EDIT
This one is for all you people. You know who you are! Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

JavaScript

do {
    // do something with files in the folder
    sourceSubFolders.moveNext();
}
while (!sourceSubFolders.atEnd());

modified 7-Nov-18 13:29pm.

Re: From the Museum of Ugly Code

11917640 Member 6-Nov-18 3:14

11917640 Member

6-Nov-18 3:14

while (!sourceSubFolders.atEnd()){
    // do something with files in the folder and don't use "continue"
    sourceSubFolders.moveNext();
}

Re: From the Museum of Ugly Code

DerekT-P6-Nov-18 23:29

DerekT-P

6-Nov-18 23:29

Indeed. At least the original structure stopped the developer (and other, later developers) from omitting the first instance; or putting extraneous code after possibly hitting the end. Defensive programming... Wink | ;-)

Re: From the Museum of Ugly Code

den2k886-Nov-18 3:17

den2k88

6-Nov-18 3:17

It is the smart(ass) approach. I am working on code that makes things like these pale.

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Re: From the Museum of Ugly Code

raddevus6-Nov-18 3:25

raddevus

6-Nov-18 3:25

den2k88 wrote:
I am working on code that makes things like these pale.

I know. It's not that bad.
It's just interesting when you see that empty statement in the for loop.

Re: From the Museum of Ugly Code

charlieg6-Nov-18 3:56

charlieg

6-Nov-18 3:56

I second the smart ass approach assessment. Someone is showing off his understanding of default loop behavior, coding bugs at a high rate of speed. I love this:

"if (bVariable = someothervar)
{
do something
}"

despise assignments in conditionals and that was a simple example.

Re: From the Museum of Ugly Code

raddevus6-Nov-18 4:18

raddevus

6-Nov-18 4:18

charlieg wrote:
if (bVariable = someothervar)

That's a very ugly one.
I had to try it in JS. It works, always runs.
C# at least gives you an error "cannot implicitly convert 'int' to 'bool'

Re: From the Museum of Ugly Code

boarderstu6-Nov-18 22:38

boarderstu

6-Nov-18 22:38

That's nothing.

I had this once in JS

if(functionName) //that's a reference, not a call!

{

    //Do something

} else

{

   //Some other equally poor code

}

It came up at pull request that as it's a function reference, it will always be true, and thus got rejected.

Anyway, the bloke went mental, telling me I couldn't reject it as I hadn't run the code to see if it worked....

He started randomly rejecting my pull requests after that.

Re: From the Museum of Ugly Code

DerekT-P6-Nov-18 23:22

DerekT-P

6-Nov-18 23:22

no, it won't always be true. Consider:

var functionName=null;
//
// ...
//
if (functionName) { 
    alert('true') 
} else { 
    alert('false') 
}

functionName = function() { 
 // Some useful stuff
}

if (functionName) { 
    alert('true') 
} else { 
    alert('false') 
}

There are plenty of use cases where testing a function for existence is perfectly valid. I guess not in that particular case though.

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