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Ok, so not a programming question; rather a what stack question. I am curious about trying out a non-Microsoft web stack - say, Linux (which flavor?), MySQL (best choice?) and then what? I don't want to go php (been there, done that) so looking for something new and hip and cool.
So, to change to an open source stack, what are the recommendations? (Not looking for a my stack is better than your stack debate, just trying to get a feel for where to start).
Final part is my idea would involve heavy use of AI - what is a good open source implementation?
Thanks.
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: Final part is my idea would involve heavy use of AI - what is a good open source implementation?
I was going to suggest Python, and that clinched it -- there is a LOT of great stuff out there using Python and AI engines (mostly implemented in C, Python ends up being a wrapper, but still a lot of good stuff -- videos, training guides, Jupyter docs, etc.)
So take a look at Python and Django. It's easy enough to set up.
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Thanks - coming from you, I take this as an exhortation that must be obeyed to retain one's sanity in a brave new (for me) world! 
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: I take this as an exhortation that must be obeyed
I first read that as "extortion". 
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Mike Mullikin wrote: I first read that as "extortion".
Me too. I was wondering in what form the profit from said extortion would take, but then my eyes adjusted. Darn.
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Hmm. But is Django unchained? 
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MySQL? Does anyone still use that? Take a look at Postgre SQL.
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CodeWraith wrote: Postgre SQL? Does anyone still use that? Take a look at MySQL.
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PostgreSQL is an enterprise level db and if all you are doing is a simple web site, then it is overkill to configure. For simple websites, I like MongoDb, and usually avoid MySQL due to the owner. If I need a real enterprise level db, then I DO use PostgreSQL.
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While I am a big fan of Python, I am not so fond of the Ruby on Rails wannabe Django. If you want to really get into the web modern stack, go Node.js on the server and pick your front end flavor (angular, vue, react, aurelia...). Take it a step further and leave your sql behind for a nosql document database (mongodb, mariadb, couchdb...). Visual studio Code works great with most of the web development frameworks.
Forgot to mention, just use whatever Linux distro that interests you, but if you're not a Linux guru, stick with one of the Ubuntu variants, Debian, or Fedora because there is a lot of support out there on the web...definitely don't choose Arch Linux if you are not an expert.
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Thank you - most helpful.
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I was also going to suggest Node 
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Thanks - my desire to try an alternate eco-sphere is not set in stone - it's a want rather than a need.
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You can apparently run a MS SQL server on Linux now, but if you're going to go with a Linux solution, you should use free software where possible. To that end, MySQL is probably your best bet.
As far as language, C++ and Java are good choices (and your framework would be QT for KDE, and GTK+ for gnome), especially if you want to develop a GUI app, and of course you can do Python or Perl.
PHP is a web technology, so you'd have to run a LAMP stack (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP).
I'm not sure how the use of AI would play any role in deciding what dev stack to use...
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Thanks - it'll primarily be a web application.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I'm not sure how the use of AI would play any role in deciding what dev stack to use...
It doesn't - wanted to know of any good implementations that would work well with the "new" stack.
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Well, if you're looking for the latest trend and you're a bit of a masochist, I'd recommend JavaScript, Node.js and MongoDB (you'll even use NoSQL instead of SQL).
That way you can share back-end code with your front-end, and you can even use it to query your database.
Since JavaScript is hot and hip you'll have no trouble finding libraries for whatever you please, including AI (like TensorFlow.js).
Completely cross-platform and all.
I've used Node.js for some blogs, like MEAN web development #2: Node.js in the back[^], as well as MongoDB (same blog series), and I've used them in my latest book, and it's not all bad
Other than that, I've heard Python is pretty cool and good with AI and Big Data, but I haven't used it at all.
And if you're looking to sticking with SQL may I suggest PostgreSQL, which has gained a lot of popularity in the last few years.
Have fun and good luck
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Thank you!
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Python is the usual goto for AI stuff since it's what a lot of Math guys get taught at Uni so it's what a lot of examples you'll find a written in. Scala or Haskell would probably be good contenders as well if you're preferring a compiled language - you'll not they're all quite trendy at the moment.
As for databases you should check out Neo4J and ArangoDB because I think graph databases are cool - or if you want to stick to a relational DB Postgres is solid.
You should also find some way to use Elasticsearch in your stack because it's what all of the cool kids are doing.
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Why not give golang a try (go for backend and templeting, your js framework of choice for the frontend, mysql/postgresSQL for the db)
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Angular 5+ with TypeScript
PostgreSQL
.Net Core web api (it's ms, but can run on Linux)
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attempt it all in Javascript, front, middle and back.
full web page only via javascript (no css or html files, if that even possible to load js without an html page?)
node.js
mongodb
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I highly recommend PostgreSQL instead of MySQL. The stored proc code is object oriented. The whole thing is very logical. The only thing good about MySQL is that it is a little more available on web hosting services.
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I’ve been a fan of Ubuntu[^] for a few years now. It’s got good support and is solid enough for everything I’ve needed so far.
As for Database…
• MS SQL[^] is just amazing.
• MySQL[^] is adequate for most needs.
• SQLite[^] is very small and portable.
• PostgreSQL[^] has tons of cool add-on features.
As for Languages…
• I’m all-in for .NET Core[^] & Standard. Nothing else matters.
• But if I ever leave .NET, I’ll probably go for C++. I hear it’s not the C++ I knew in the 90s.
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