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David Crow wrote: Because now Apex makes those tools in China?
Craftsman, but same thing made in china. Suspect they must be getting them from manufacturing to take 30 days.
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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S Douglas wrote: Craftsman...
...tools such as ratchets, sockets, and wrenches are made by Apex.
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David Crow wrote: made by Apex.
Ah, didn't know that. I am not really a tool snob, just like having the same / similar items. They align better in the toolbox, making it easier to find the right sized tool when you need it (I might have slight OCD tendencies).
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I managed to inadvertently destroy one of my Pis
LOL.
There is NO way for brick and mortar stores to compete with online shopping for non-perishable goods, especially with fast delivery from mega-huge distribution hubs.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Which is why if I can I get more than I need, why buy a pack of 10 screws when you need 8, buy a pack of 50 not too much dearer and I might have some spares (provided the garage monster doesn't eat them!)
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
And they wonder why brick/mortar stores are going away...
No, nobody's wondering. "They" have known why for a very long time.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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When you install VS Code on Linux, does it also install the .Net Core stuff (core and sdk)?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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There's one way to find out...
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I installed VS Code, but wasn't paying attention to the text scrolling by. I started it up and don't see a way to create a new project.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I started it up and don't see a way to create a new project.
VS Code is totally non-intuitive IMO. But I guess that really only means I haven't worked with it enough to learn How It Does Things.
Anyways, to your point, I think you just create a folder and start putting code files into the folder. The folder is the "project."
I may be wrong.
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The philosophy is totally different to the classic .Net / Visual Studio ecosystem, and that is no bad thing IMHO. It does mean you have to actually decide what plugins etc. you want, and install them, to get your toolchain going, but that is a small price to pay for the flexibility and lack of bloat.
One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I don't know.
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The install process should at least prompt you to select the desired bloat.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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VS Code is just a text editor. No dotnet core or any other distribution is installed.
So there is nothing to prompt about.
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Marc Clifton wrote: S Code is totally non-intuitive IMO.
It just takes a bit of time to reveal it's awesomeness.
Also it does feel "non-intuitive", if we are a bit so used to Visual Studio user experience.
VS Code feels such a perfect one for non-MS stack.
Been using it to review some LAMP code. It's doing truly well. This is such a badly needed one for the wild-n-free world. Where Notepad++ has been ruling it for all these years. It's de-throned now. lol
Full Reset
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VS Code isn't an IDE, it's a text editor. It doesn't have any concept of a "project". If you want a full IDE for Linux, get Eclipse[^].
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Well then, that makes VSCode one of the most useless pieces of software to be spewed out of redmond...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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No! Don't give up. It does run like an IDE in many ways. It has intellisense, error checking, a debugger with watch windows etc. I now work in VS Code much how I did in full .NET.
Here's what I would do just to get started and learn:
1) Download or create a project in regular Visual Studio using the template you want to use.
2) Copy that file to your Linux machine
3) Open VS Code and then open the directory where that project is
VS Code will analyze the type of project you are opening, suggest the plugins you need etc. You can now learn the VS Code terminal and other small things that are key to working in the non VS environment. They are simple and powerful once learned. Down the road when you want to create new projects you can use some scaffolding depending on the project you want to create. For Angular I use NPM. For webapi you can use this: Create a Web API with ASP.NET Core and Visual Studio Code | Microsoft Docs[^] The biggest differences are that it doesn't rely on proj/sln files and that you do these things via command prompt instead of graphical interfaces. Once you get a few commands down it is fantastic and powerful.
I started with VS Code for my Angular development but now am using it for my Web API dev too. After spending 15 years in the .NET IDE and VB6 before that it is nice to be able to do everything I need in a more lightweight and cross-platform environment!
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The whole point of this exercise is to get away from Windows completely. If I have to use Visual Studio to create the project, I may as well stay with Windows. And ya know, it's gonna take a crapload of effort to convince me that a commandline interface is better/easier than a GUI.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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(sarc)Then why does TV/movies makes sure that shell/cmd/terminal windows are visible whenever smart people are using computers?(/sarc)
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You could also ask why radar scopes make a noise when the sweep detects an object.  No radar scope I've ever seen does that (my rate was RadarMan in the Navy).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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It does seem like a tremendous regression. I think many like it simply because it is cryptic: kind of a throwback to the "super sleuth decoder ring." I'm too old to try to be cool; I liked command line back in my UNIX administrator days, but that was a different lifetime. Remembering how to do mundane crap is what a computer is for, and I am tired.
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Werd
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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It's nice to see some senior devs actually valuing their time. Having had to deal with command-line stuff recently, it made my blood boil. Everytime a path is involved, that's 10 minutes of trial and error and debugging. Googling is usually no help because Linux people already assume you only use ASCI character paths with no UTF and absolutely no spaces. And you have to revert your slashes from Windows. But not all of them. Oh, and learn escape char combinations so you can put a letter in an argument.
Do I use " here or ' ? Do I need -c or --c ? Oh god, I need to pass 2 sub-parameters here, how do I do that... comma separated ok, but my parameters has a comma...
What, you though computers where tools to helps us? No, YOU must bend to your computer.
I could go on and on. This is the definition of a terrible experience, the terminal is not made for humans and there's no motivation to improve beyond the Unix model of the 60's.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: VS Code
If you haven't looked at Rider: Cross-platform .NET IDE by JetBrains I would definitely take a gander. An excellent product, IMO.
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Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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As a daily user of a JetBrains IDE (Android Studio), I would definitely recommend staying away from anything from JetBrains.
The amount of utter jaw dropping moments in disregard for the UI I continue to have each weak is amazingly bad.
Like the probabilistic buttons, where there's a 5% chance the click won't register.
Or the massive GC breaks for 3-5 seconds while you're trying to write something or just scroll a file.
Or the ocasional hash mish-match in temp build files that most IDEs solve with a Clean Project, but not JetBrains' "I'll only clean stuff that never actually causes problems in projects".
I could go on, but I'd rather just call you a shill, good sir.
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