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My first programming class in fall of 1979, CS141: Introduction to Programming, used WATFIV[^] on the aforementioned mainframe. As I recall, WATFIV was a superset of FORTRAN 66, adding several constructs useful for structured programming.
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I went to school so long ago... that I got to learn programming using Turbo Pascal. And the beginnings of OOP
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Young whipper snappers 
University of Alaska didn't even HAVE a computer science curriculum. My degrees are in Chemistry and Mathematics. I learned assembly language on a PDP-11 in order to create analysis tools for an Inductively Coupled Argon Plasma Spectrophotometer. (Say that three times fast!)
Although my IMSAI 8080 DID have paper tape AND floppies.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
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littleGreenDude wrote: Why do colleges choose to have young developers solve such abstract problems?
Actually, you can learn a lot solving for primes. 
littleGreenDude wrote: Would it not serve the [business] world better to have them work on practical issues?
The "business world" and "practical issues" is often an oxymoron for me. 
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All the practical issues are already solved here on codeproject.
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Is my new theory of inertia gaining momentum?
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I erg you to control your posts, watt-ever the cost in self esteem. Joule be well thought of as it Gibbs you less friction in the replies.
I'm sure you newton's of these types of puns.
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careful! you should go ahead and back up first.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Is my new theory speculation of inertia gaining momentum?
FTFY
I get the impression you Googled "theory" at 8am this morning and have been chasing the rabbit down the internet hole for the last 8 hours!
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But your new theory of gravitation is going downhill.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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you should check in with your super, conducting yourself like that will have everyone breaking the rules.
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You won't get me to fall for that old one!
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I think we should just let that thought spin for a while.
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How long should we weight?
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I feel forced into an equal and opposite opinion.
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It depends on how much friction your theory encounters.
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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Give it a rest and move on.
Wait - what????
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down votes solutions just for the health of it?
Shortly after posting a solution, almost faster than they could possibly cut and paste the solution to verify it works, the solution is down voted. They don't provide any useful feedback or comment, just the down vote.
What are they getting out of this?
Can a CP admin find out if it is the same person doing this?
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littleGreenDude wrote: down votes solutions just for the health of it?
I find it to be healthier to ignore the votes. 
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Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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True that. It is just a minor annoyance. Without additional feedback from the down voter, it adds no value to the question or solution and is really a disservice to the CP community.
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Yup, there is. I posted about not too long ago. Every solution in a few Q&A posts was down voted. One reason why down-votes on regular posts don't effect points is that drive-by down-voting became quite an epidemic.
It takes all kinds of people to make a world - but we don't need all of them.
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well it's more of a bugs and sugs discussion but
- there's always been the debate that down votes should require a comment (min 50 chars...)
- and then on that an option to appeal a dv based on the comment (wrong, nasty, off topic, meaningless...)
but then the admins / moderators realised that would mean more work for them (following up on dv protests) so it gets tossed into the "too hard" basket. To cover themselves usually they will respond with "the down voter will eventually get a bad rep and loose rights, or they will just get bored and go away." of course in real life those things seemingly don't seem to happen, but whose to say it's not just new idiots replacing the old ones, there's a whole world of assholes out there.
I'm actually OK with the status quo, I'm OK that the admins/mods don't want more work, (after all they are volunteers), just wish they would be upfront about the real reason they down vote the down-vote-must-comment.
Anyway, as others have said:
don't worry about the down votes (world full of wankers), if it's good enough it'll get kudos [often from the OP - but some of them are jerks too and say nothing],
... you still get that personal satisfaction you [may have] helped someone, and perhaps the next guy too searching on the same question
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Lopatir wrote: min 50 chars
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
 It doesn't really help requiring a comment.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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As far as I could tell it was only a couple of downvotes, but it was indeed from the same person. Normally I'd like to see more of a trend before taking action, but this person hasn't been around for long and hasn't posted a single thing, so out they go.
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Sean Ewington
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