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Well I initially thought that, then there is the whole Bad Wolf thing in Dr. Who and we have a missing Darlek... just saying...
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Did you take an arrow in the knee?
They buy shoes, then they wear them! They make them sound old! Dairy! Dairy!
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Visual Basic.NET is a great programming language, so powerful as C#, but more fun and readable to program with it.
So finally after so many years VB.NET has surpassed C# in TIOBE Index (July 2018)
See Picture Here (July 2018)
www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
modified 20-Jul-18 17:21pm.
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georani wrote: but more fun and readable to program with it.
Nurse! Quick! Here we have another one that believes his own propaganda!
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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 this is good … 
BTW, Google trends says that VB.NET popularity is waaay below C#,
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To each their own. some people like Chevys some people like Fords, and other prefer Hondas. It's all personal preferences, and if it gets the job done then that's great, if it doesn't than that's when it's a problem.
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VB.Net is far more verbose than C#. This has the side effect of not hiding dotNet features such as event wireups. Granted, LINQ is easier and more concise in C# but for most features VB.Net is just as easy as C# to code.
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I call bullocks
#SupportHeForShe
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...An alternative viewpoint: 14 most popular programming languages according to Stack Overflow...
Stack Overflow can not measure the popularity of a language, but the difficulty of programmers to use it, the more questions, the more problematic is that language. Tiobe Index is more trustful.
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While there is certainly a valid point in your statement the overall outcome is utter bs (sorry). Tiobe is really a joke benchmark especially when compared to StackOverflow. Just compare the top spot: Java? JavaScript not even in top 5 (the most used PL running on essentially all devices and platforms)?
As every of these benchmarks is a lie (strongly depending on the sources, custom metrics, and attitudes of the creators) a survey across all developers seems to be the most reliable indicator about the popularity of PL.
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Just because JavaScript is the most used doesn't mean it is popular. That's two different things. I've read many posts where people complain about JavaScript. That doesn't mean they aren't using it, though.
Da Bomb
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Are we talking relative or absolute here? It makes a huge difference. Example: If, e.g., JS is used 10x as much as X and X is liked by 100% of its developers, while JS is only liked by 20% of their developers, its still twice as popular.
Of course you are right, but JS is popular and is most used.
There are only two kinds of programming languages: Those that aren't used and those that people complain about.
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Like every other "study" it had an agenda to push the statistical results they wanted to emphasize.
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Do I have your permission to use these quotes?
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Hmmm there are some strange entries in the top 20, including VB, presumably the version that has been dead for over a decade.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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VB and VB.Net are different languages.
The old VB is at the top 20 because it is still largely used around the world, it is far from being "dead".
VB.Net at the other hand is a very powerful and advanced language, very similar to C#.
Do more research before saying things you don't know.
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For dead read unsupported which equates to dead! My development path was from Superbase to Access to VB4 to VB6 and then to VB.net and then to c# so I know precisely what I am talking about.
And there are still some strange entries ia rather minor player to be up there.n the top 20. Delphi, which I also dabbled in, seems a little strange, and Mathlab, a programming language. And they split PL/SQL and SQL (presumably TSQL) seems an odd segregation.
Still statistics and all that!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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SuperBase! Way ahead of its time.
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It really was, not many would remember it though. An example of a product destroyed by better marketing.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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In 1981 I was told that COBOL was dead and it was a waste of time learning it (I didn't). Funny ... nearly 40 years later, COBOL is still quite alive and well.
So is "classic" VB. Last year it ranked between 10th and 15th in every software survey I read. Maybe VB is dead and it's returned as a revenant?
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BryanFazekas wrote: Last year it ranked between 10th and 15th in every software survey I read
There was a sh*t load of applications written in it, it would be interesting if the surveys identified the volume of app support, the majority I suspect.
No matter how you look at it, classic VB is no longer supported and has not been for many years. Anyone STARTING a new project in it is nuts.
BryanFazekas wrote: COBOL is still quite alive and well.
I think "well" is a bit of a stretch, even alive is only because some legacy systems are just to expensive to replace.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: There was a sh*t load of applications written in it, it would be interesting if the surveys identified the volume of app support, the majority I suspect.
That's my guess as well.
Mycroft Holmes wrote: No matter how you look at it, classic VB is no longer supported and has not been for many years. Anyone STARTING a new project in it is nuts.
I agree on both points. But that's not my point -- which is the fact that a language that has been unsupported as a stand-alone product for 15+ years still ranks. I spotted VB on several lists a number of years back and was surprised -- I hadn't done VB6 since 2002-ish and assumed it was long since dead.
Although VB is still supported. It's the macro language behind MS Office. My normal.dotm contains macros I wrote in Word 97. Still running as originally written, still useful today.
Mycroft Holmes wrote: I think "well" is a bit of a stretch, even alive is only because some legacy systems are just to expensive to replace.
I know a number of guys who make very good rates doing COBOL. Sure, it's not used for much new development, but a kid coming out of school today could make a career of COBOL. [I'm not recommending that; simply pointing out an option.]
Every negative point in this entire topic is irrelevant if folks are making a living from a language. 
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unfortunately there is a ton of old business apps out there with no plans to be completely rewritten. I personally know of a couple companies reliant on accounting software written (supported and still added to) all in VB6.
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