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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: but not everyone can be a developer without experience.
Or live in Wyoming.
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On the contrary, it takes a lot of talent to speak with a proper accent. The better you are at that, the better you should be paid.
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Don't think the world is reasonable and sensible, there is no justice either.
But maybe we may praise ourselves lucky that we are not slaves in a feudal system, or worse: captured by pirates 
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You seem'd to ignore the fact that you may have not applied at the correct places or checked where they actually pay more for your so called skills or experience and may not have asked what
you were expected to do ? It is at ones discretion to join or not.
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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I wonder how are not all western programmers unemployed with that kind of competition.
throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Because they deliver quality, and quality has a price.
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And sometimes that is realized too late and it costs the company dearly, sometimes to the point of extinction.
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High tech software developer here, graduated with 6 years experince. 21k with all the taxes still to be applied.
In my country it's the average, I'm even lucky because I have fixed work time and virtually no travels.
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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If programming is your passion and there is not any other option at the moment take any opportunity you like or take an opportunity you can suspect working on interesting projects.
You can still leave later but any experience working in a team and projects, a work culture, a work routine, discipline will count and give you an opportunity to learn & progress.
Your next move will be simply anything higher than Rs 8000.
The companies have got certain budget, as somebody mentioned here, certain Call Centers simply can have higher budget (from foreign companies) for you being just on the phone while other IT companies might not have such a budget for certain level of developers. If they see that you are good and they have got budget to increase your salary eventually to keep you, they will. If not you will find something better 
As a developer you have got unlimited options to progress through years, even starting your business eventually. As a Call Center worker it is not that certain. And all of us started on certain low salaries!
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You need to learn this magic formula about Frustration:
Frustration = (Expectations - Reality) * EGO
It simply implies that the bigger the difference you see in Reality vs. what you expect, the more Frustrated you will get, and your EGO only makes it worse.
It also shows: The fastest and easiest way to avoid frustration is to lower your expectations to what Reality is! Or simply become EGO-Less (EGO of 0). Because it is hard to be frustrated about something when you don't truly care, because you are centered. This is the hardest thing to truly change.
My first programming position was UNPAID. My Second one was just $5/hr (In America, and since that was more than Minimum wage. I was happy. My expectations were pretty low back then).
But you have to start somewhere. Make a plan, get the experience, and be the employee they want to keep... Or find another company after you have enough skills to move on for much better pay.
Good luck.
PS: A Corollary to is that Frustration means you are on the verge of learning something.
(Typically it is a Reality Adjustment!)
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Such a great message. I think you are right because may be the problem is my ego get hurts just because i am an engineer and i am not getting salary as expected where as ungraduates are earning more. I like your formula
Frustration = (Expectation - Reality) * Ego
from now onwards i'll try y best to expect less and kill my ego.
Thank you so much sir.
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A mates lappy refuses to boot up - can I help as he has all his pictures on it?
Looks like the boot area is corrupted - don't know how, he swears he hasn't downloaded anything nasty. Yeah, right! I'll reformat and install again.
OK, take out the HDD, do an image backup to his USB drive, test restore to a fresh partition on my machine. Notice that he's a "random storer" - the pictures are all over the place. Decide that is his problem, not mine - I'll give him the backup and he can spend a good chunk of his time finding them, not me.
Reload from machine recovery disks, upgrade to Win10, done.
Install AOMEI and write up instructions to access his files in the backup (AOMEI allows you to mount images as logical, read only disks, so this isn't difficult).
Only ... Windows won't let him access the files because he's logged in as user "Tim", and the files are owned by ... user "Tim". 
And it's read only - for good reason - so he can't change the access permissions.
So now I have to repartition his USB drive, and re-restore the partition back to that so he can acquire permissions to access his own files...
Why do we make things to complicated for ourselves? 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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While you're online as Mr. AOMEI...
I got a new laptop a couple of weeks ago, and was somewhat limited by the options in the shop so ended up with a piddling 256GB SSD (but a reasonable 1TB 7200 hybrid D . Order 512GB SSD, find out I have to give AOMEI another bunch of beer tokens because I bought a discounted job last time around and it was locked to the old laptop, do a sector by sector clone to a nice 7200 hybrid on USB3. When the new SSD turns up, clone the USB HDD to the new installed SSD sector by sector, reboot.
No OS detected.
Utter obscenities.
Redo without sector by sector.
Utter much more obscene obscenities.
Dive into BIOS - turn off UEFI boot and go to legacy boot.
All boots OK.
So the burning questions are:
1. Why did I have to dump UEFI boot for AOMEI?
2. How do I go back to UEFI boot?
OriginalGriff wrote: Why do we make things to complicated for ourselves?
I wish I knew! 
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Not sure - I did an "upgrade to SSD" option on mine instead of going via an intermediate drive (but that means having both drives in the same computer - which should be possible in yours if you unplug the hybrid?)
At a guess, the USB clone drive doesn't include / support GPT?
Contact AOMEI and ask them?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: At a guess, the USB clone drive doesn't include / support GPT?
This could be the nitwop - never thought of that. Will investigate.
OriginalGriff wrote: (but that means having both drives in the same computer - which should be possible in yours if you unplug the hybrid?)
Not possible - the HDD is SATA but the SSD is M2 PCIE.
OriginalGriff wrote: Contact AOMEI and ask them?
They might ask me for yet more beer tokens! 
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They do free versions of both Backupper and Partition Assistant which do ... well pretty much everything the paid-for versions do. I bought it because it's a damn good product and they deserve reward for it.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: I bought it because it's a damn good product and they deserve reward for it.
Ditto. I also use their Partition Assistant and PE Builder, but I didn't think there was a 'Pro' version of those?
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I have just answered my own question. There is a Pro Partition Assistant - and - wait for it - they do want more beer tokens for it - 45, to be precise (I drink cheap beer but compensate by drinking a lot of it and anyway, it's hot out here  ).
This will enable doing a switcheroo 'Convert System/Boot Disk between MBR and GPT Styles'.
Hey - wait a minute - didn't they just do that to me for free?
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I recently had a similar request over the phone for help as a PC wouldn't boot anymore, as it was on sunday and it wasn't too far away from where I live, I decided to go to the place of crime to figure it out.
Indeed the PC at first would not boot, I removed all dangling USB thingies and to my surprise Windows 10 showed a "repairing disk" message.
After Windows had repaired the disk the PC worked again, I suspect it had to do with a damaged hibernate file which is created when you put Windows to sleep.
Phew, that was easier than expected 
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Nah, this just did the POST, and went to a blank screen with just the charger plugged in. A quick BIOS inspection showed everything there looked fine, so boot record / GPT / kernel corruption is my guess.
I'm guessing he downloaded a nasty and panicked when it started doing things, but I could be wrong.
One thing about Win10 and disks that I hate: plug in a large FAT32 drive and it complains it's defective because it wants to convert it to exFAT (since it's proprietary to MS).
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: Only ... Windows won't let him access the files because he's logged in as user "Tim", and the files are owned by ... user "Tim"
No administrator user on Tim's lappie?
or plug the USB into another computer and set full permissions for everybody?
Signature ready for installation. Please Reboot now.
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Because it's an image backup mounted as a read only drive*, you can't change the permissions at all. I'm currently restoring the backup onto a fresh partition on the USB drive so he can change the permissions on that.
* And I wouldn't have it any other way: backups should be read only!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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To possibly fix that permission issue, you could try a little trick I used to get rid of Security Center even though it's owned by the OS:
TAKEOWN /F "%SystemRoot%\<filePath>"
ICACLS "%SystemRoot%\<filePath>" /grant:r administrators:F
This will force ownership of any file onto the current group (in my case admin) and give admin full permissions. Works in Win7; haven't tested on Win10.
modified 25-Mar-18 16:47pm.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Why do we make things to complicated for ourselves yourself?
FTFY.
Please tell me you at least tried to get the boot sector fixed before deciding you needed to go through this whole-day (and more) process...?
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