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MSBassSinger wrote: Have you considered using TypeScript?
I have actually, but I'm just a poor developer. However, I have initiated the decision process and now it rests with the managers.
I hope they don't find it too "expensive".
I am not the one who knocks. I never knock.
In fact, I hate knocking. Just barge in will'Ya?
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Yeah it has flaws. Every language and every environment does.
Remember in Cobol, you had to IDENTIFY the target environment!
In ForTran, God was REAL.... Unless you declared it otherwise.
The biggest issue I ran into was some code declared a variable with the same name as a global IE object, and that JavaScript variable did not really work, but the code failed in IE, and worked okay in Chrome.
That took me a while to debug.
But the little I do with HTML, I would honestly die a thousand deaths without JavaScript!
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I'm kind of surprised at the lacks of specifics on this thread. So far no one, including the OP, has indicated specifically what they like or don't like about Javascript or the tools and ecosystem that surrounds it.
One of the things I find most amazing about Javascript is how chameleon-like it is. Folks have created TypeScript, to provide strong typing and a more traditional OO flavor. React and other frameworks rely more on its Functional Programming flavor. Other people have compiled Javascript source into such compact code that the recently released WebAssembly standard is only a minor improvement. People have even made Javascript look like the granddaddy of OO languages, Smalltalk (Amber Smalltalk[^]).
Tools around Javascript also make the language extremely powerful. Flow allows you to find flaws in your code without requiring the explicit type declarations that TypeScript utilizes. WebPack and its many plugins allows you to not only minimize your production code, but you can even create hot-loaded modules so that your enormous web app doesn't have to all be loaded when the user accesses the first page. And if you're generating minimized code, make sure you also generate source maps, so you can debug it so much more easily. Chrome's built-in developer tools are powerful, and I rely on them every day, but occasional glances at FireFox and Edge make me think they have pretty strong debugging tools as well.
There's no way to tell from your post what it is about Javascript you don't like, or how much experience you have with the language, and so its impossible to suggest approaches that might help you deal with your issues. And there's no doubt that Javascript continues to have its limitations. But it still seems to me that Javascript survives not only because it is the only game in town for front-end web programming, but because it is a remarkably adaptable tool that enjoys strong support from a large, vibrant developer community.
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Type safety (aka compile time errors instead of runtime ones). No standardized web bytecode it compiles to like HLSL, Vulkan shaders, .NET, Java, etc, etc leaving huge gaps in a standardized lang and API. Maybe webasm will fix that. O and crap like this: Javascript: the weird parts -- Charlie Harvey[^]
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Who needs type safety, when you have Strings for everything, AMIRITE??? /s
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I think you had a runtime error stringing that together.
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Yes, but only on Firefox, Chrome works so that's all that matters. Edge what?... /s
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The problem is not its limitations. It's the lack of limitations and lack of proper enforcing of a set of rules to ensure behaviour of code. In the web world, they call it Chromium V8, in the rest of the world they call that a compiler.
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Slowly I'm getting used to randomly changing display settings. Yesterday I even hit the jackpot twice. All settings were changed at once.
Now I have found some more things wich come and go or don't work at all.
- I can post as much as I like, but the signature does never appear. I just changed the signature again and if it appears under this post, it would work for the first time.
- I can post as much as I like, but until today I did not get the reputation point for posting. Yesterday and the days before I wrote a lot, but there is not a single entry in my reputation history. Today there are.
- I can get as many replies to the posts as I want and I even get a notification that there has been a response - most of the time. But not always.
More and more I feel like I'm in a quantum state. I exist and don't exist at the same time. Only when someone observes me, I'm heisenberged into one or the other state.
And now I'm going to log out and back in, not that this has ever helped in any way.
Edit: No signature!
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My sig works, every time.
Did you change it in your settings, and if so, did you save them?
Look at your response to this: you should see "click to edit signature" which lest you change it for this message, and also lets you see the whole current sig. And below that the preview should show the sig as it will appear.
Ignore rep points, they aren;t important. regrettably, there is no cash equivalent (or I'd post more!  )
I'd suggest that this need to be raised - with specific examples - with the Hamsters: Bugs and Suggestions[^] - remember to tell them exactly what hardware and software you are using to access the site, and do mention that this appears to be specific to you - I'm fine as far as I can see.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Changed like this!
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I just edited the signature in the response. The signature from the settings did not appear. The box was empty.
Just a few weeks ago I kicked about 80000 reputation points into the bucket, so that's really nothing I would cry about. It's just a remarkable symptom that the application logic could not make those entries into the database and now suddently can.
In my programs the application logic would scream bloody murder in the logs if it unexpectedly could not resolve an ID or otherwise not complete a step in the procedure.
OriginalGriff wrote: I'd suggest that this need to be raised - with specific examples - with the Hamsters: Bugs and Suggestions[^] - remember to tell them exactly what hardware and software you are using to access the site, and do mention that this appears to be specific to you - I'm fine as far as I can see.
Most probably it's something wrong with my account that sometimes prevents my settings or the signature from being found or database entries being made. I can't say why it comes and goes so randomly, but it does not look like it's a common bug. Just guessing, but it could be an ID that's stored in the view state or session that sometimes is passed correctly and sometimes it is not. And, as I wrote last time, it happens on my notebook, on the computer at work and also my desktop at home.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Ignore rep points, they aren;t important.
OK - I expect you to allow 2,000,000 to slip by without a comment.
I lost a bunch of posting points lately - I don't care about those. I do look at the feedback points. Like most small children, I like to be praised. Or scolded. Just so I don't feel lonely.
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Have a feedback - I wouldn't want you getting lonely.
W∴ Balboos wrote: I expect you to allow 2,000,000 to slip by without a comment.
Quite possibly not a chance. Best guess (from the rep graph) is that it's going to be pretty much smack-on my birthday next year. It I hit 2,000,000 on the actual day, do you really think I could shut up about it?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Would it not be a better place to post this in B&S?
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Yes. But then his problems will be solved. Here, we can make jokes about it.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Nelek wrote: Would it not be a better place to post this in B&S?
Yep, now that I finally have some more substantial clues where to look.
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CodeWraith wrote: heisenberged
Yes. But Heisenberg from breaking bad. Appears to be good quality.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Never watched that, so I still prefer good ol' Werner.
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CodeWraith, this is not that because there's not such lottery at CP. 
Just post your message under Site Bugs and Suggestions forum, and one of the CP's admins will reply to it and will help you out with this problem. I personally did that the number of times and the most of my problems were successfully solved.
As for my personal replies to your helpful messages whenever you've read and replied to my posts, I always upvoted each reply message and those ones you've posted as well.
So that it's really kind of strange that reputation points were not added to your reputation. It's not so important and you might not pay much attention to this, but anyway...
And also, another possible cause is that probably, as far as I can understand, once ever you've been restricted for contributing spam or a harmful content. Thus, you'll probably need to contact the CP's team and ask them why your replies reps. points are not eventually added.
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Arthur V. Ratz wrote: As for my personal replies to your helpful messages whenever you've read and replied to my posts, I always upvoted each reply message and those ones you've posted as well
I got to reply to your posts more often!
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Not in fact, you normally might or might not to reply if you're actually not willing to do so, or in case when there's just nothing to say.
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