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Ahhh what we're talking about here is "real computers". Not terribly dissimilar to the ICL System 4's I cut my teeth on in the late 70's. Curiously enough, one of the links on that page was to an Aussie ICL/Leo reunion and behold! there were four guys that I worked with when I was an (ICL) engineer in Melbourne from '88 to 93....
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All the guys in the photos of LEO III/6 were people I worked with when they moved the system to a new centre in south Manchester.
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Sir, that does not count: you aged very well, and I know you are interested in mobile development. 
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But at my age I'm not very mobile. 
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lol 
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Jeremy Falcon
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I can't make a claim that far back but I can say my first professional software was in COBOL on punched cards. My debugger was about 6-8 inches above my shoulders. Today I work embedded C and love every minute, even the crunches.
I cringe at these new wonder tools that crop up about once a week that do everything that once required discipline. I imagine these are for kids who need to keep one eye on their phone. Where will you be when something goes wrong or when that tool isn't there? "Never happen", the young one will say with complete confidence and unearned arrogance.
Youth is wasted on the young.
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Oh yes, didn't you just love writing out all those DATA DIVISION picture statements?
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Ha! Yes, the pic clause, casting out all ambiguity. Did we even do type casting? If we did, I don't even remember. And the other three divisions (and of course the sections within), sure. I haven't seen that language in decades and often wonder what it morphed into. I remember considering myself "advanced" when I embraced the 'perform ... depending on ...'. Seemed so elegant.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: hype over mobile not real?
Mobile statistics are surprising indeed.
It does appear strange to me though, mobile developers would surely have coded for desktops too, right?
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I'm not sure - I have a kid here, who started with Angular...
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The mobile hype is real, but it's mostly a cash-grab centered on getting people addicted to gacha games, and not a lot of people are needed to run that scam.
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I'm beginning to feel too old.
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You don't need a developer to create a "mobile app".
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Old but not beaten yet, or to cite our local motto "Luctor et Emergo" 
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Yes we are but as for me, I can't help it.
I never coded against a mainframe but checked it because there wasn't a choice for mini computers. LSI-11/23, Microvax etc which I did code against.
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- A self-selected survey is not scientifically accurate.
- There is a great need for programmers for all types of machines, from mainframes to microcontrollers.
- Mobile programmers have their place, but it is not nearly as important as the Press would have you believe.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: A self-selected survey is not scientifically accurate.
But it even has a name: Statistics...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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You know what they say - there are lies, damned lies, and statistics. 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Mobile is the most popular interface - it gets the in your face time.
But it still needs the server hosting the data and the info/web server.
so basically while the mobile gets all the kudos, it's really only a fancy "dumb terminal." Given that many younguns wouldn't know what that means, it just proves us oldies still know and understand more.
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So we either adapt or get left behind too poop in our adult diapers.
Jeremy Falcon
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It means the bulk of software development is still on things with keyboards.
Lots of people seem to forget that.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I'd say, it dependso on where you sit and whom you're listening to. Case in example: Loads of IT news, including on CodeProject, is about web stuff. And not few JS programmers just talk about JS and their web stuff like it was a general IT truth. They don't begin with "The following article and the findings I present apply to the web and web only, I absolutely ignore desktop programming and I literally couldn't care less about embedded programming." They just present their findings as a general truth wihch, in their respective field, is absolutely right. I, as a desktop/embedded programmer used to get bewildered by that, simply because what they're saying isn't true for my field.
I think, the whole mobile buzz and how important it is is another case of "not my field".
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