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No body can select/insert/update your database?
TOMZ_KV
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Nobody really does. That will find it's way to the top of the truth heap in time.
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For daily business operation, not so much touch interaction on a computer is needed.
TOMZ_KV
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Tomz_KV wrote: Are there any good reasons that developers need a touch screen dev box?
An emulator is just that; it may not be an entirely accurate representation of what happens on the real hardware.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Do you think my boss would buy me an iPhone X? 
TOMZ_KV
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If you need to write software for the iPhone X, then yes, I'd recommend getting one. Most people reacting here in this thread are reacting before they read the entire question.
..if you don't need to write software for it, then the question would be simple; are you worth that iPhone X?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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It is a trade off. One shouldn't fully trust the emulator.
So for example one might suggest that QA should use the actual device.
But the emulator might be 'almost' good enough that one could leave it up to QA to find the small number of problems.
Not to mention that technically problems could come up on different versions of the device or different vendors. The solution to that is problematic for most places because it requires a lot of devices and a lot of testing. And that is simply impossible for a developer to do. At least one company does something like that as there was a story about it somewhere where there was a testing lab with something like 1000+ devices.
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The way I see it, the best testing is done on the actual system the user is using, whereas emulators are best used for prototyping and debugging. I've had many problems only occurred when it was run on the actual system.
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Agree. Even on actual systems, problems may still exist since there are so many different devices made by different manufacturers. Cannot test them all.
TOMZ_KV
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Not until programming becomes as simple as pointing and clicking. At which time devs will make up about 2,000 fancy acronyms for left click and right click so we can still sound important in meetings.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Not until programming becomes as simple as pointing and clicking
The day may come sooner than we expect.
TOMZ_KV
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Tomz_KV wrote: Not until programming becomes as simple as pointing and clicking
The day may come sooner than we expect.
Yeah, yeah, yeah ... they've been saying that for years. True, there's a lot more that you can do with point-and-click than you used to but as soon as you have to customize the model, guess what, someone is going to have to write some code.
-CM
If you think hiring a professional is expensive, wait until you hire an amateur! - Red Adair
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We wrote a Touch Screen Plugin for Visual Studio Called "Codez Plz"
It lists a bunch of code snippets.
Swipe Left to NOT include it
Swipe Right to paste it right in
In our First demo, we build an entire application just by swiping.
In our Second demo, we try to figure out why it's not working, by posting questions online:
Swipe Left to post to StackOverflow
Swipe Right to post to CodeProject
It has been rated as AMAZINGLY TRIVIAL to get work done by uninformed users everywhere!
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Tomz_KV wrote: . The "touch" test is generally conducted on a real phone or pad
Except when those are not the target devices. Automotive, avionic and ship controls, industrial machines of many kinds... while the proper testing is on the machine the first phase (i.e. is it at least doing what I want it to do?) is more comfortable on the developer machine.
Plus, after 6 years of switching back and forth from machines to my workstation I tend to touch the controls on my dev screen and swear loudly because the software is unresponsive without reason...
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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My laptop has a touchscreen and I have not found a way to really utilize it in dev.
TOMZ_KV
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No.
They require shutting down the system to clean the screen.
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Can't you turn off only the monitor?
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I forgot the joke icon 
Some notebooks does not have a function key assigned to turn the screen off (must use an utility for that).
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I only do dev work on a laptop if it's docked to three 24" screens. 
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I usually don't have to clean the screen when doing dev work.
That is more often necessary when misusing the system for other puposes 
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I think that a touch screen has the ability to tell fingers from wiping paper. Phone screen does. But I have not tried on a work station.
TOMZ_KV
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