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Quote: some older better Windows like Windows 7
FTFY 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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First thing I did when I got my i7 Dell was partition it and put windows 7 on.
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Yeah I know, but hell, how many hours until I am back with all my SW installed...
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Rage wrote: It is a hp pavilion p6, bought in 2014. It works like a charm.
I first read this as a Pentium 6, and of course my first thought was you should be happy the thing still turns on. 
Jeremy Falcon
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You can just install an older version no of Windows 10 (Fresh) and pick up what drivers HP offers (HP Auto Detect)
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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abmv wrote: pick up what drivers HP offers (HP Auto Detect)
or, for an equivalent level of pain, I could burn my eyes with liquid metal.
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What about using the restore point that was created before the update in question?
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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That is pretty much what I do, but the update keeps installing and there is no way to prevent it.
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Does the mouse pointer display? If so, can you wander around the screen and see it change to the text-input cursor in one place near the center? If so, does the screen work if you sleep the laptop and then wake it back up again?
If you answered yes to all that.. there may be a workaround -- basically, you teach the computer to reset the video right after it boots.
Rage wrote: In what twisted world are we living ...?
The one where my 1 year old laptop was orphaned by the manufacturer when Win 8.1 came out.
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patbob wrote: Does the mouse pointer display?
Yes, and for the rest, it is a desktop. (pavilion not necessarily = laptop).
patbob wrote: was orphaned by the manufacturer when Win 8.1 came out.
Ouch.
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Try unintalling the drivers from HP and install the default drivers from Microsoft instead, usually does wonders for the stability.
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Mmmh, this seems to be worth a try before buying a new video card.
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There's a 90% chance that it's supported with the right hardware which means the same performance minus the bugs.
The downside is that you lose a ton of settings, that you probably wouldn't use anyway.
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Install windows 7 and turn off updates.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Install windows 7
I suppose so, but I really do not want to go in the loop Backup everything -> Install win7 -> find bizarre drivers for hp cheap hw -> reinstall 50+ software I run on my computer -> retweak all the small tweaks done to get it to work properly -> Debackup the backups. 
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Well, looks like thats the only way.
And then take backup, I like Macrium backup, then you can go back to whatever stable snapshot you like.
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I know, I never went into this because of the cost - I'd need 2To or 4To, which is not that much but not so inexpensive anymore - and because of active procrastination.
The backup is not really the PITA part, it is more the SW reinstalling stuff. For instance, I am using Money for personal finance, and installing it on Win7+ and get it to work properly is not easy.
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Take a deep breath, sigh, set up your stack of disks, and start the process. After a few hours you will be done, and back in business.
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I don't know about you, depending on what you do for a living and your hobbies etc it can take days to reinstall software. You might be up and going shortly, not everyone else will be.
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It varies, but every time I have done it it takes about a dayy to get it all done, installed, backed up, and ready to go.
And of course ALWAYS take backups, then you can go back to a known good point. Macrium is my favourite, very easy to use.
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Don't buy HP. Just.. don't.
I stopped counting the amount of HP related desktop and laptop problems I've seen over the years.
The oddest one was a laptop with a modified Windows 8 install image on it with less drivers than the stock Windows 8 image. As a result, it had no Ethernet and no Wi-Fi out-of-the box.
On the plus side, it was priced pretty cheap and the MB broke in the last month of warranty. 
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killbot5000 wrote: On the plus side, it was priced pretty cheap and the MB broke in the last month of warranty.
That's a definition of "plus side" I'm not entirely familiar with.
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If all else fails, you might consider running W10 in a virtual machine. Doesn't matter what host, W7 or even Linux. VMware's player is free and there are others. If you get your machine running, you can run (free) tools to create a VM from it, which precludes reinstalling programs. Don't know about reactivating stuff, if you clone the MAC address that satisfies a lot. I run W10 under Linux and it runs fine and (most of the time) updates are OK.
Unlike 100's of millions of other users, I have to fiddle with it after some updates. 
Ate salad for dinner.
Mostly croutons & tomatoes.
Really just one big round crouton covered with tomato sauce.
And cheese.
FINE, it was a pizza.
I ate a pizza.
Lou
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree".
Anonymous
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Its not HP nor is it an artifact of obsolescence. I have a 4 month old Microsoft Surface Pro 4 that had that exact thing happen a week or 2 ago. I just took it to Best Buy's Geek Squad because I have a "2 year warranty" with them after buying the computer in July, and they had it fixed in about 3 hours. If you can't fix it yourself, take it to a tech, 'cuz its the <> update that did it, not your computer.
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I don't have any PC's that were minted any less than about 4-6 years ago. My main development box is a Dell XPS 8300 (i7/2600) with 16GB of main and a 1TB SSD. The machine is just flat a processing monster and running Windows 7 as are all my other PC's (of which I have 5). The XPS and a couple other machines are also i7's ... plenty of power. Enough of this upgrade nonsense. I've played with Windows 10 (wasted entirely too much time with it, too) which I call the "adware" version of Windows. Until and unless I'm forced to go to Windows 10 because one of my machines just has to be replaced I'll drive this equipment into the ground.
Equipment obsolete? Perhaps the "market" thinks so, however I can still develop and deploy solutions that run even on the latest hardware without having to go to it.
Twisted world? Yup. Just for the record, you do NOT have to stick with the "upgrade train" that the market wants to put you in.
-CM
If you think hiring a professional is expensive, wait until you hire an amateur! - Red Adair
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