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... and introduce a variety of software compatibility and/or unavailability problems.
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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Hey, yours is new!
My newest are circa 2008. But no way am I going to put Win 10 on either of them.
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I belong to the happy few who have nothing against windows 10.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: My newest are circa 2008. But no way am I going to put Win 10 on either of them.
All my equipment and software are circa 2008 (Windows 7, Visual Studio, etc.). My personal opinion is that we were at a technology "sweet spot" then. I see absolutely no reason to upgrade my development tools or my equipment. As far as the equipment goes, I simply went to SSD for primary storage and added a little RAM. I'm good for the duration as far as PC software development goes.
If you think hiring a professional is expensive, wait until you hire an amateur! - Red Adair
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Oh, well, some of my software goes back to 2002. 
My systems need more RAM at least.
I'd like to get new CPUs and motherboards, but I need to find one with FDD support. 
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The elitist among us would say that we're "living in the past". OK, so I'm living in the past. I'm also crying all-the-way to the bank. 
If you think hiring a professional is expensive, wait until you hire an amateur! - Red Adair
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What about installing some older Windows like Windows 7 or Linux on the machine? 
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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Quote: some older better Windows like Windows 7
FTFY
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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First thing I did when I got my i7 Dell was partition it and put windows 7 on.
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Yeah I know, but hell, how many hours until I am back with all my SW installed...
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Rage wrote: It is a hp pavilion p6, bought in 2014. It works like a charm.
I first read this as a Pentium 6, and of course my first thought was you should be happy the thing still turns on. 
Jeremy Falcon
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You can just install an older version no of Windows 10 (Fresh) and pick up what drivers HP offers (HP Auto Detect)
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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abmv wrote: pick up what drivers HP offers (HP Auto Detect)
or, for an equivalent level of pain, I could burn my eyes with liquid metal.
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What about using the restore point that was created before the update in question?
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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That is pretty much what I do, but the update keeps installing and there is no way to prevent it.
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Does the mouse pointer display? If so, can you wander around the screen and see it change to the text-input cursor in one place near the center? If so, does the screen work if you sleep the laptop and then wake it back up again?
If you answered yes to all that.. there may be a workaround -- basically, you teach the computer to reset the video right after it boots.
Rage wrote: In what twisted world are we living ...?
The one where my 1 year old laptop was orphaned by the manufacturer when Win 8.1 came out.
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patbob wrote: Does the mouse pointer display?
Yes, and for the rest, it is a desktop. (pavilion not necessarily = laptop).
patbob wrote: was orphaned by the manufacturer when Win 8.1 came out.
Ouch.
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Try unintalling the drivers from HP and install the default drivers from Microsoft instead, usually does wonders for the stability.
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Mmmh, this seems to be worth a try before buying a new video card.
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There's a 90% chance that it's supported with the right hardware which means the same performance minus the bugs.
The downside is that you lose a ton of settings, that you probably wouldn't use anyway.
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Install windows 7 and turn off updates.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Install windows 7
I suppose so, but I really do not want to go in the loop Backup everything -> Install win7 -> find bizarre drivers for hp cheap hw -> reinstall 50+ software I run on my computer -> retweak all the small tweaks done to get it to work properly -> Debackup the backups.
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Well, looks like thats the only way.
And then take backup, I like Macrium backup, then you can go back to whatever stable snapshot you like.
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I know, I never went into this because of the cost - I'd need 2To or 4To, which is not that much but not so inexpensive anymore - and because of active procrastination.
The backup is not really the PITA part, it is more the SW reinstalling stuff. For instance, I am using Money for personal finance, and installing it on Win7+ and get it to work properly is not easy.
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Take a deep breath, sigh, set up your stack of disks, and start the process. After a few hours you will be done, and back in business.
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