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OMG, this place is my home now. Why didn't I become a regular earlier?
People dislike apple, with valid points, people dislike javascript having their reasons, what's not to like.
Adopt me please 
I am not the one who knocks. I never knock.
In fact, I hate knocking.
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But first there is induction ceremony.
- Write a web page with plain JS, HTML and CSS.
- Write any server side logic of your choice in JS.
- Test it on all iOS platform (till latest -4 versions)
- Needless to say, #2.5 is buy your own devices for testing.
Come back with proof and we will then proceed to next stage of induction.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Ragging is a felony now.
I am not the one who knocks. I never knock.
In fact, I hate knocking.
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Because it has a nice shiny Apple on it!
An old acquaintance of mine once spent a stupid amount of money on a bowl. The conversation went something like this:
ME: How much????!!!!
HIM: A hundred quid.
ME: A hundred quid for a goddamn bowl????!!!!
HIM: It's not just any bowl, it's a Kelly Hoppen bowl! It's amazing!
ME: What does it do that a non-Kelly Hoppen bowl doesn't do?
HIM: You don't understand - it's a Kelly Hoppen bowl!
ME: What do Kelly Hoppen's bowls do that normal people's bowls don't do?
HIM: It's the way that they combine form and function.
ME: Don't all bowls combine form and function?
HIM: Maybe, but not the way that Kelly's do.
ME: This really doesn't seem to be formatically or functionally different from a £2 bowl from ASDA, if I'm honest. You've been ripped for ninety-eight quid.
HIM: No, I haven't! It's a Kelly Hoppen bowl.
ME: Okay, whatever. Still sounds a touch pricey to me. Who the elephant is this Kelly Hoppen woman anyway?
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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Happens every time. iPhone comes out, charges more, the other companies raise their prices based on that standard.
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Minor edits:
I am in my gastroenterologist's office, inquire about replacing my touchy colon and am given a price quote:
ME: How much????!!!!
HIM: A hundred quid.
ME: A hundred quid for a goddamn bowel????!!!!
HIM: It's not just any bowel, it's Kelly Hoppen's bowel! It's amazing!
ME: What does it do that a non-Kelly Hoppen bowel doesn't do?
HIM: You don't understand - it's a Kelly Hoppen bowel!
ME: What do Kelly Hoppen's bowels do that normal people's bowels don't do?
HIM: It's the way that they combine form and function.
ME: Don't all bowels combine form and function?
HIM: Maybe, but not the way that Kelly's does.
ME: This really doesn't seem to be formatically or functionally different from a £2 bowel from ASDA, if I'm honest. You've been ripped for ninety-eight quid.
HIM: No, I haven't! It's a Kelly Hoppen bowel.
ME: Okay, whatever. Still sounds a touch pricey to me. Who the elephant is this Kelly Hoppen woman anyway?
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If you don't buy it the ghost of Steve Jobs will appear and demand an annual stipend and a large cut of all future sales of your software.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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I'm with you. I just bought a high end development laptop. I spent more than normal - usual budget is 1.5k, I spent 1.9. It will easily last 4 years, so good investment.
$1k on a phone? You have to have your head examined. Worse, I will go to my daughter's high school volleyball game and see all of her friends with these phones. Parents these days are insane.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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charlieg wrote: I just bought a high end development laptop. I spent more than normal - usual budget is 1.5k, I spent 1.9. It will easily last 4 years, so good investment.
<Luddite mode> OMG! Who on earth would spend almost 2 thousand dollars on a stupid laptop? Idiots, that who. I have a $150 Chromebook that does everything I need. Anybody who spends more than $500 on a laptop is just doing it as a status symbol. Pretentious pricks every one!</Luddite mode>
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Must've been doing just web surfing. Me? A mere beefed up laptop won't cut it. I need a custom build desktop with liquid cool, with at least dual 1080 GPU card. Forget about the tablet and the phone.
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charlieg wrote: Parents these days are insane.
20 years ago I remember wandering through a department store looking for kids jeans and coming across some that were more than $100.
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You need a high end laptop, some would prefer having a high end smartphone instead of having a computer and/or laptop and/or tablet. Where I live only few people have computers, everyone has a smartphone.
As for 1000USD, if you're rich then the price doesn't matter, else, well, bragging rights of course.
Personally I'd never buy an iPhone, just too pricey, just like I'd never buy a fancy car
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So where does this leave the smartphone that can be plugged into a docking station?
I buy cheap laptops because they get broken very easily. I buy old models of phones because I don't need the latest whizz bang tech. The only thing I spend a lot of money on is sitting next to me.
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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Really?
4 average (at best) devices that probably use at least 3 different charging cables and you need a purse or backpack to carry them all with you. Data transfer between the 4 devices is crappy (at best). And there isn't a decent camera on any of them.
You really don't understand the idea of a really nice smart phone?
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really.
I think $1,000 for a phone, and right there, that is likely the problem.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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charlieg wrote: I think $1,000 for a phone, and right there, that is likely the problem.
But he spent $1000 on 4 devices that even together in many ways aren't as good as the phone. I'm not suggesting that a high end smart phone is the right fit for everyone but I find it amazing that so many folks here (on a tech site) are so short sighted as to not see beyond their own personal situation.
Sheesh!
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So you are saying that a 15" screen notebook or a 10" screen pad is not better than a 5" screen smartphone? I can whip out that pad pretty much anywhere, although the smartphone is a little more convenient, like when walking down the street (I would have to stop walking to effectively use the pad).
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swampwiz wrote: So you are saying that a 15" screen notebook or a 10" screen pad is not better than a 5" screen smartphone?
No, but it all depends on what you're doing. You may do things that warrant a 15" screen. Others may not.
Again...
My Quote: I'm not suggesting that a high end smart phone is the right fit for everyone but I find it amazing that so many folks here (on a tech site) are so short sighted as to not see beyond their own personal situation.
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Don't think a notebook and a smartphone have the same functions anyway. Spending 1K for a really nice smartphone that doesn't what you want to but, has a really good camera, awesome video quality and does everything else in the world. Good trade I'd say.
I am not the one who knocks. I never knock.
In fact, I hate knocking.
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A digital camera does not have as good of a camera as a smartphone?
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swampwiz wrote: A digital camera does not have as good of a camera as a smartphone?
1) Depends on the camera and the smart phone.
2) You didn't mention a digital camera in your post when I replied.
3) That's a 5th device to carry, charge and transfer data to & from. 
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swampwiz wrote: So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone...
Someone that has really small fingers?
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I like the iPhone - it works well though I think it a tad expensive. Having said that, my iPhone 6 is still going strong and I see no reason to upgrade until the phone stops working - it's over 3 years old and still works without a problem. I tried an android phone and it was ok but lacks the finesse of the apple product. Buy what suits your needs.
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Because they can. The same could said about cars, breakfast cereal, pencils,... Let 'em buy whatever they want to, if they have the cash good for them. As for me I have a $12 flip phone, and I think that was $5 too much.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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