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"underlying neurological disease"
Ha! That explains quite a bit then.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Rob Philpott wrote: where do you place you arms in readiness for overnight batch processing?
Either on a shelf near the bed, or protecting my "assets" from cat-like pounce attacks through the duvet.
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Detachable arms eh? Mind you, I knew this girl once who could detach her eye-lashes. Mysterious things.
Whilst there is no cat in my house, there is an excess of small children so I appreciate your other pose.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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I can see hanging one arm, but how do you hang the other?
See Gallagher... 
When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others.
Same thing when you are stupid.
modified 19-Nov-21 21:01pm.
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OriginalGriff wrote: protecting my "assets" from cat-like pounce attacks through the duvet
It's the sub-doona attacks executed from the edges of the bed that are the worst, especially if there are claws and bare skin involved.
Are cats born evil or do they just study hard?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Born, I think: either that or their mothers give serious lessons.
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Been there, done that. At least one of my arms usually go under the pillow, but it also depends on the season. I would like to train myself to sleep in a better position, but it can be pretty difficult after sleeping a certain way for all these years.
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Exactly. I try to put them elsewhere, but then I get uncomfortable and will struggle getting off to sleep. Arms are in completely the wrong place to go to sleep on your side.
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Rob Philpott.
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Have you thought about getting some of those fancy pillows, memory foam or the ones endorsed by NASA? I think your pillow is the problem as you should not need to put your arms under your pillow (thus the numb arms).
Just a thought...
BTW, I changed out my pillow to a run of the mill memory foam pillow and it has improved my sleep (head and neck support).
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Yes, I have one of those - big heavy thing it is. Prior to that I'd always use two pillows doubled up but would still need the addition of an arm or two.
I am fairly wide across the shoulders, so it might just be I need a wider pillow. But the thing about arms is they don't compress. Perhaps I'll stick that big book on WPF I've got under it and try that.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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I used to have similar problems, but not as severe. The neck, shoulders and arms simply hurt and felt stiff or strained. The 'mechanical' part of the problem was the matress, which started to sag in the middle and forced me into an uncomfortable position when I slid into that 'hole' during the night.
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Rob Philpott wrote: I embed my arms under the pillow to prop it up a bit
Try using 2 pillows that overlap slightly, thereby providing a slope on which you rest your head. I find that very comfortable.
/ravi
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This [^] also always has worked up to now.
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Rob Philpott wrote: where do you place you arms in readiness for overnight batch processing?
My left arm is usually draped over my wife; the right arm is tucked under the pillow.
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Whattaya know I sleep in that position too.
Just not with your wife. 
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Get different/more pillows.
I'm fairly barrel chested and sleep on my side, used to sleep almost exclusively on the left because of heartburn and then one arm up under the pillow to prop it up as you described. Would wake up with that arm completely numb from time to time.
Started getting back and neck pain so I went in to see a chiropractor to snap everything back in place. Turned out that I had been sleeping like that for so long that my shoulders were slanted to one side and my hips to the other. Had to get all my suits and pants tailored to adjust for it.
After trying a bunch of different pillows and throwing them away, I finally spent about $150 on a modular pillow, is a goose down shell with a memory foam core. Probably about 6" thick to support my head. Also had to retrain myself to sleep with my arm at my side, crossed over and resting on the opposite waist.
Problem is that I go through one of those pillows every 6-8 months because I crush it between my shoulder and wall when I sleep.
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I've done that; I've also gotten a torn rotator cuff on one shoulder. This is about a decade ago. I fixed that one by sleeping on the other side, with subsequent torn rotator cuff on the other shoulder. I've since learned to sleep with pillow propped up and arms to the side (elbow in front of nose). I've worked on my shoulders, and they have improved somewhat but I have trouble throwing a ball straight.
I'm retired. There's a nap for that...
- Harvey
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As clever as this thing[^] which we have in nthe news on the front page today?
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"Pointless dead Scotsman reveals end of silk road." (4)
Good luck.
Andy B
modified 5-Jul-17 3:48am.
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Pointless (Remove 'E')
dead EX
Scotsman IAN reveals end of silk road
XIAN
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Wow that was quick! Well done Griff, your turn tomorrow.
Andy B
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It was a good one! 
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Coming from the highway, I just had a BMW with the sign 'Microsoft Car Sharing' attempting to do something that resembles driving in front of my nose.
That reminded me of something I read here years ago:
Owning a BMW does not always make you a wanker, it just means you will become one!
Does that also apply to Microsoft Car Sharing? Do the cars require you to close all windows and restart all the time? Do they hijack you to their garage when they want to get updates? Do you need a Microsoft account to get in?
Edit: Microsoft macht mobil – Car Sharing-Angebot für Mitarbeiter – Blog Microsoft Deutschland[^]
Don't know wether they have an English version or not.
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