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Ian Shlasko wrote: Classic view
Where's the setting for this? Did a quick google and the links I see want me to install some third party app.
Jeremy Falcon
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Microsoft hates you even more, as Win10 proves 
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Luckily for me, my company has been gracious enough to grant me an MSDN license, from which I downloaded the Enterprise edition of winio. No Store, No Cortana, Updates when I tell it to update, I get to uninstall One Drive... It's almost halfway decent under these circumstances.
Of course, I only spend about 2-3 hours a week these days on my Win10 machine. The vast majority of my time is spent on a Linux box these days.
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I have tried, several times, to like Windows 10. I played with it from the first developer previews on up to when it went GA (and that stupid "free" forced-upgrade period). There was nothing major wrong with the thing (that I noticed) other than the fact that a device or two that I have were no longer supported. (A photo printer I have 2 of and work fine). I also didn't care much for the GUI changes and it just "felt" intrusive - always tossing an ad for something. "Try Microsoft Office 2015" ... that kind of thing. I use my machines for software development - not as an extension of my phone. I use my phones as an extension of my main development machine, not the other way around. I also don't care for the fact that I would have to trash perfectly good printers over a software upgrade!
I keep a copy of Windows 10 in a VM so that I can test desktop applications I write (WinForms) to make sure nothing has been broken by the new version of the O/S - as I do have a client or two that have moved to it. So far no problems on that front at least.
I spent nearly 2 years fiddling with the thing trying to like it and finally decided that I just don't care for it. (Yeah, I know, I'm thick-headed!) I have finally locked my entire network down on Windows 7. It's not likely that I'm going to ever switch. My equipment is well maintained and I'm unlikely to buy another computer any time soon. I buy slightly older models of equipment anyway. (The last NEW machine I bought was this XPS 8300 and it's cattle-bred with an i7/2600 and upgraded with 1TB SSD and 16GB of main - pretty high performance). Windows 7 ain't going anywhere for a long time, IMHO. When it reaches end-of-support I'll just keep my firewall on the router tuned up and not worry about it. I haven't ever gotten hacked as it is in the last 10-15 years through all the versions of Windows I've used in this house so I'm not particularly worried about it.
I got better things to do (like build toys for my grandson!) than ride the "upgrade train" any longer. You can HAVE Windows 10!
If you think that hiring a professional is expensive wait until you try hiring an amateur! - Red Adair
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I concur.
I will probably have to use Windows 10 at the office within the next year or so as we have to support users that will get it, but then it will be the Enterprise version which is inherently better anyway.
At home I am still using Windows 7 for most of my machines with XP to run an old scanner and printer, Vista as a sandbox and test machine (it just keeps working and has NEVER given any trouble) and Server 2008 on my home file and backup servers.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Yeah, sometimes constraints at work require that we use stuff we wouldn't use ourselves. The company I work for provided laptops for the developers and gave us the choice of Windows 7 or 10 and I went with 7, of course. If they, at any point, require upgrading to 10 then it will be on their machine, not my equipment. As I said earlier, it's a matter of constantly wasting time and money replacing technology that does the job. I'm in the same mode with my development tools. I still use VS2008/SQL Server/Active Reports 6 to produce my product. I spent about $1000 on those things and nothing about the new Visual Studio (or the other products) enhances what I can produce. I'm very much in a "if it ain't broke, why fix it?" mode with all this stuff.
I have a 20-year-old table saw out in the wood shop that still cuts wood as well as it did when it was new. Until it physically wears out or they upgrade wood to a new material that it can't cut I reckon I'll stick with it, too! 
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My dad, a master carpenter, used to have this hammer he swore by. He said, "They just don't make them like they used to. I've had this same hammer for years. !t's only had two new heads and three new handles in all that time and yet it still works like a new one!". 
PS. I am setting up an old table saw (probably at least 15 years old) left to me by a friend and am looking forward to many happy hours accurately cutting wood for various projects my wife has lined up for me!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I know we're getting off-topic here but, yeah, you just don't need to update your tools until something appears that's going to radically improve the way you go about your work. Enjoy that old table saw! 
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The SINGLE most important feature:
You can RIGHT CLICK the windows icon in the lower left, and get something AKIN to a usable menu of options without beating someone to death out of sheer frustration.
I am proud to say I love windows 7 still. and with that one technique, I can get things done in Windows 10 in MERE MINUTES where windows 7 takes seconds. LOL
Cortana: Kirk, you seemed Pissed at Windows 10. Please try right clicking the windows icon...
Cortana: Kirk, see, now you only seem irritated
Kirk: Cortana, is there a mode where windows 10 works like windows 7?
Cortana: <chuckling> baby steps dahling, baby steps
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I don't blame you. Windows 10 is the first one to make me seriously consider my other options.
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The best thing about Win10 is that it finally pursuaded me to start using Linux. 
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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Yeah, I've got the same feelings about Win 10 in its default setup. There's too many negatives in it for me to use it as my main OS. I do have it on my laptop (since it's a recent purchase) but I've set it up as a dual boot system. Mint Linux for all my general computing needs and Windows 10 for games that aren't available under Linux.
You can get overall control of Windows 10 but it requires a fair amount of work and research (to find the registry tweaks). It requires much more tweaking than Mint Linux has for me.
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What's up with all the stupid BOXES? Was this user interface designed by cats?
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Been using it close on 2.5 years and very few complaints.
Immanentize the Eschaton!
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Compared to what? macOS, Gnome3, KDE5, Unity etc? (face palm)...
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I'm a bit agnostic when it comes to Windows X, granted it is a big leap forward from the version 8 flavor of Windows OS, but I loathe the update process and lack of simple straight forward control that was present in pre-8.x versions.
There are advances to be sure, but I'm wondering at what cost. I'm waiting for the creators update to be pushed and will hold further judgment till that takes place.
WHAT REALLY TROUBLES ME... is Apples iOS and how Microsoft like they have become with it. Seems like every time I use streaming media on my iPad Pro or iPhone 7 I have to reboot them to get them to function properly. This is most noted in email where you will not see the content of the message until you reboot. So I find that I'm doing that as many as 5 times a day. Getting old fast there Apple. MS-Windows only forces me to reboot when they slide in an update (but it sure would be nice to know in advance it was happening or prompting that I needed to reboot due to an update 'hint hint ms'!).
Wish both companies would grow up their OS's a bit more and produce something other than an infinite beta product which is what is see on both their parts!
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lol ... given your "unProfessional Profile" is soaked in Windows only sauce this must be a sad day in your life?
But guessing one of these (profile OR this post) is the joke, as how could it take a windows jockey this long to try Win10 for the first time?
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Member 8007155 wrote: given your "unProfessional Profile" is soaked in Windows only sauce this must be a sad day in your life?
Who the f*ck are you again?
Member 8007155 wrote: But guessing one of these (profile OR this post) is the joke, as how could it take a windows jockey this long to try Win10 for the first time?
I didn't "try" it. That implies a desire to use it. It was already on a machine (that belongs to someone else that I don't even know). Being the only computer person anybody seems to know within my sphere of influence, I was asked to resolve an issue on the box.
And here's some info you might find useful for any future interaction you might direct my way - I don't give a flyin rat f*ck about how you view my "unprofessional profile".
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Member 8007155 wrote: given your "unProfessional Profile" is soaked in Windows only sauce this must be a sad day in your life?
Who the f*ck are you again?
Why LINUX?[^]
Slightly ironic dude we got there. Do not feed the troll. If you want to harm him in other ways, go ahead.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote in crayon: I don't give a flyin rat f*ck about how you view my "unprofessional profile".
And yet you replied, nothing more needs said 
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LOL - Too funny
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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PMSL! "Unprofessional profile" ... were you talking about your own?
"How could it take a windows jockey this long to try Win10 for the first time?" - I'm a "windows jockey" ... I've "looked" at Win10, I've "tried" Win10 and I'm happy to stay well away from it until all of the issues are sorted.
But on a more relevant topic ... why are you so negative? Been here 5 years and you only seem to come out of the cupboard to have a go at other members? To quote you.. lighten up
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I like it.
It's a pleasure to use.
That is all.
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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I've been clearing out the spare room - trying to make it into a bedroom instead of a storage place - and that means going through the boxes we moved in with, and haven't opened since. Some of it has been quite interesting: three watches I'd forgotten about (including my gold fob watch), two sets of cufflinks I haven't worn for twenty years, load of pictures of Herself as a young lady. Some of it has been hideous, as in "why did I keep an ancient sleeping bag that smells like something died in it?"
Then it turned up: my Student Union card from university. Oh gawd. Me, as an 18 YO zit factory in 1977 ... I look young, innocent, sober. And only the first two were true for any part of my stay at university ...
Worse: Herself has seen it and banned me from binning the thing. Damn. And no, I'm not posting it here for a very good reason: Warning - language probably not SFW[^]
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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What is even more beautiful than an elderly lady? A still older photograph.
Sorry 
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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