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I never noticed it was missing, probably because I rarely ever use it, but it does indeed appear to be missing. Just curious - what do you use it for?
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Web-based VDI sessions mostly, but I also like to go full screen for some other things as my eyesight isn't overly brilliant and if I'm going to be on a tab for any length of time, the more screen estate I can get, the less eye-strain I suffer.
Slogans aren't solutions.
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Yeah, a bit of a strange omission I must say. Doesn't affect me much but I do find it odd that it's missing.
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So it won't work with windows 8?
Damn!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Are you saying that you're still on Windows 8? Oh man, I feel sorry for ya.
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This lappy I'm using right now is 8.1 -- but you wouldn't recognise it as being so.
I used a subtle method known as "hacking the living cr@p out of the registry" to make it useable.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Until I can pin the favorites sidebar to the left and persist that across sessions, I have no interest. It would probably be a trivial change for the Edge team to make.
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You can pin it to the right and persist it across sessions. That's pretty close I think, haha.
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Only if you live in the bizarro universe... 
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What do you mean? You can pin it and persist it. Just not on the side you're used to, sure, but that's actually pretty close to what you're looking for, isn't it? Or am I missing something?
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I mean that's nice but no banana. I want it on the left. It would be trivial for MS to allow that and, until they do, I will stay with Chrome. On top of which, it does not persist across sessions. If I close Edge the tab is hidden when I next open it.
Oh, and I was being a tad sarcastic. 
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Haha, well, I tried it on my computer and it stays open if I close and re-open Edge s o  Did you actually try it after the Creator's Edition update?
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Thanks for the heads up - I'll try it later and see if it has become usable. 
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My experience is the total opposite...The Edge experience when using it to run MS Dynamics CRM clients is just bad. I reverted to IE 11. Even Chrome run better when loading Dynamics CRM pages.
Don't they test their browsers on their own products especially one such as MS Dynamics CRM?
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I'm using the EDGE from the first version, and although I also use Chrome and IE, now EDGE is my default one. If they continue to improve it, it may end up being my only one.
Sorry for my bad English
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Mike Marynowski wrote: The only thing I'm kind of on the fence about is Edge's font rendering. Chrome has much smoother looking fonts,
That's odd. I find the opposite to be true.
Maybe it's just a matter of how the individual computers are set up?
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It depends on the font. Edge clearly has higher contrast, which I like, but the side effect of that is that when it's a bit jaggy you notice more. Sometimes it looks better, sometimes it doesn't. The CodeProject forum for example looks sharper on Edge and this particular font doesn't have jaggy issues. Others look quite a bit worse.
Purely for readability Edge's rendering is probably easier on the eyes, but I think Chrome's looks better in a lot of cases.
Either way, I am looking forward to when high DPI screens are the standard and this won't be an issue anymore.
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Yeah, I might give it a try now that I can install an ad-blocker.
Yes, I've noticed that Chrome (or maybe some of the websites I have open) keep using more and more memory and CPU to the point of the mouse stalling noticeably.
I usually use Chrome and FF simultaneously so that I can be logged into two different google accounts at the same time, so will see how swapping Chrome for Edge goes.
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Mike Marynowski wrote: The only thing I'm kind of on the fence about is Edge's font rendering. Chrome has much smoother looking fonts, whereas Edge gives text a bit more contrast but it seems to come at the expense of smoothness. I don't think that will continue to be an issue after upgrading to a high DPI ultrawide in the near future, but it's a bit of an issue on my plebian 96 DPI monitor at the moment (although I do like the 30" of glorious real-estate).
That's been an MS vs Apple thing since at least the early 90s. MacOS always tried to render as close to print as possible, in contrast Windows text rendering fudged raster grids and line weights to make text more legible. (eg by putting a single row of black pixels where a mac would have two adjacent rows of gray because the floating point position for the line was halfway between two integers.) You're right that the difference has been getting progressively less as our screen resolutions have been getting higher, but when 640x480 on a 15" CRT meant ~55 DPI (vs standard 1x today being 96) it was a much bigger deal 25 years ago.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Chrome has its own rendering engine that is different from both Mac or Windows, which I think I subjectively prefer to both as well. It seems like the proper balance to me. Mac tries to smooth it too much, Windows not quite enough in some cases.
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Good to know. I've never done any sort of intensive comparison. I use windows on a daily basis, the text looks fine. I use Chrome at work and Vivaldi (based on the same rendering engine) at home, the text looks fine. I don't use Macs regularly, but I've never had an issue with the font rendering on them. I realize other people can by more OCD about it, and it probably was more of an issue at the much lower DPIs of the early 90s when MS went in favor of making it look good on the screen, while Apple with desktop publishing as a major customer use went with trying to match print rendering above all else.
High DPI screens should make all of that stuff a moot point in the next 10 to 15 years. High end laptops are already there, larger desktop monitors will need 6 or 8k to approximate the 300DPI baseline of modern printing.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I'll repost the screenshot I posted to another message to highlight some problematic areas of rendering for Edge/Windows:
Edge vs Chrome
Edge/Windows is considerably harsher and more aliased in a lot of fonts, particularly bolded fonts.
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Short answer: No.
Long Answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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I'm close to making that switch too... If only 1Password had an Edge extension ready...
And my Edge font experience is the opposite of yours - this linked image has Chrome on the left, Edge on the right - I prefer Edge's font rendering!
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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CodeProject forums definitely look better in Edge. The higher contrast I was referring to really shines on fonts that don't have jaggy issues. But look at these examples:
Edge vs Chrome
Chrome's rendering always looks good, just sometimes with a bit less contrast. Edge's always has more contrast with harder edges but as a result it sometimes like like ass with much more aliasing. It's extremely noticeable in places where it happens, like the Facebook example above. The Edge rendering is extremely harsh.
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