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CDP1802 wrote: Don't just sit in the chair and watch TV
I don't own a TV. I agree with your advice ! 
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How well do you sleep?
I suffer from very bad insomnia and this can lead to inopportune fatigue hitting me during the day; never at night when I need it. If you are not sleeping well at night, go to the doctor for some Zolpidem and get to sleep for a few days and see if that helps.
Another side is the psychological one. What are you doing when you sit down of an evening? Any passive activity - TV is the worst - will increase doziness, while active activities - reading or, God forbid, talking to the family - will stimulate brain activity.
Finally, and this may sound stupid, try sitting in a different chair. Your brain associates the chair with the end of day wind down and will be switching off when you slump into it with your glass of scotch.
veni bibi saltavi
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: talking to the family - will stimulate brain activity.
Either you're very lucky or you're shamelessly lying 
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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Not really, I spend at least an hour every evening talking to the family. I've got the Skype logs to prove it!
veni bibi saltavi
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Do you spend much time far from them? In that case I very well understand you. For most of my life "talking to the family" meant listening to my dad's ramblings (insightful but he tends to repeat himself quite a lot and to obsess on some topic for months at a time) and then it came my fiancé, who speaks to me - and expects only affirmative grunts and the occasional enthusisatic response in regards of some topic she only knows/is interested in. Usually I skip the listening and react only to the pauses in speech (a technique my mother taught me).
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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At the mo, they're all in Africa and I'm here in the UK. Thought they're over for a holiday on Friday so that's a wee "yay!". But as a family we do talk, all the time. Often everyone at once. 
veni bibi saltavi
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: How well do you sleep?
Very poorly, and this is the single glaring reason for that.
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Disclaimer: I am not a medical doctor, nor do I play one on TV, the stage, or anywhere else.
It could be a sign of sleep apnea. Someone I know had such a problem, but I don't recall how it was treated in his case.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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I've suffered from this myself - sleep apnoea leading to narcolepsy. At one point in my life I was falling asleep in all manner of situations, usually hitting REM instantly and often not even realising that I was asleep - very scary way to be! It also leads to very loud snoring which can be seriously problematic for partners.
The are various ways to tackle apnoea - CPAP being one of them but who wants to sleep with a face mask? I couldn't get on with it, myself.
I had surgery on my septum (somewhat mangled in an accident) and that helped but it didn't cure the problem.
Weight loss is the one sure-fire remedy as apnoea tends to affect people with 16.5"+ collar sizes and the one that largely fixed it for me - I lost 3 stone and now sleep a lot better than I used to. Smoking can also be a factor but much less so than weight.
Needless to say, I'm a rocket scientist not a doctor, but personal experience suggests that a low-carb diet is the best approach - not only for weight-loss but also as carbs always seemed to be one of the big narcolepsy triggers for me.
If you aren't overweight, chances are it isn't apnoea. Either way, see a doctor - it's something that can get out of hand quite quickly and it's extremely dangerous if you drive or use heavy machinery.
Slogans aren't solutions.
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PeejayAdams wrote: narcolepsy
Is that the word for "going to sleep so suddenly that you are not even aware of its impending onset" ?
Since it happens so frequently (90% of the time) in this chair, in front of this same computer, in the exact same way, after the one (evening) meal of the day, every single time, is it actually narcolepsy ?
But first of all, do I have the correct term ?
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I think my collar is 16", maybe 15.5, whatever
Body Mass Index is 26 or 27; I'm okay with it.
Body Fat Percentage Estimates are generally between 17 and 20 percent on my super accurate home Bioelectric Impedance Analysis scales which are absolutely inerrant every single time.
(Local medical clinics pay me a living wage to bring them over and calibrate their DEXXA scan facilities)
Really, for all their faults and inconsistencies, I still recommend Bioelectrical Impedance Analysis scales for anyone who is serious about physical fitness.
Thanks for the feedback, though.
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Narcolepsy can exist without any association with sleep apnoea but it's inherently unpredictable so it doesn't sound like that's your issue.
Slogans aren't solutions.
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C-P-User-3 wrote: Google does not lead to very good answers here
Google would definitely be my last lookup when it comes to health issues. I'd talk to a doctor.
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Rage wrote: Google would definitely be my last lookup when it comes to health issues.
Smirk, major smirk.
Sad that SEO plus people with their maniacal agendas have changed the landscape so much.
Five or ten years ago that would have been a viable and reasonable thing to do.
Them days be gone !
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Getting older is a factor that increases likelyhood,...
for both falling asleep in chairs and stroke.
Sin tack
the any key okay
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Lopatir wrote: Getting older is a factor
I continue to try to find a way to stop that.
I will succeed, or die trying.
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C-P-User-3 wrote: Lopatir wrote: Getting older is a factor
I continue to try to find a way to stop that.
I will succeed, or die trying.
Actually dying is a 100% effective way to stop the aging process, so either way you win
Sin tack
the any key okay
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I doze off all the time, especially when having small talk with the wife. It can be a good thing sometimes - dozing off, not the stroke part. 
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Do you snore? Sleep Apnea and Thyroid issues from the WebMD article seem like likely causes.
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Might sound strange, but "don't sit in the chair".
Explained: First of all you have the psychological effect that your body and mind recognize it as a place of rest and sleep and therefore will "induce" a drousy effect.
Secondly, make sure to move more. You get energy by burning energy (in a strange way). Try sleeping when you just ran a few miles and you'll know what I'm talking about.
If you do sit in the chair, make sure to stand up regularly. If you're watching TV, stand up each commercial and do something. (toilet break, clean up kitchen a bit, ... I personally try to do 30 situps and 10 push up each commercial break, that amounts to around 150 situps and 50 push ups every evening )
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V. wrote: Might sound strange, but "don't sit in the chair".
You know what ? That makes perfect sense.
Couldn't see the forest for the trees.
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I konk out quite often too, but I'm old and I hear that's what us old timers do!
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
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C-P-User-3 wrote:
Just exactly what ARE the factors which increase the likelihood of this ?
Getting older?
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C-P-User-3 wrote: Just exactly what ARE the factors which increase the likelihood of this ?
In order of likelyhood:
0. American TV.
1. Hollywood movies.
2. Too much sugar in your diet.
Buy a mini sphygmomanometer, take readings three times a day for a week (at the same three times each day), then go say "Hi!" to your doctor.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: 0. American TV.
I don't own one, and haven't had one in my home for thirty years now.
Mark_Wallace wrote: 1. Hollywood movies.
Last movie I paid to watch was, I think, Attack Of The Killer Tomatoes
(I guess that that confirms how old I am)
Mark_Wallace wrote: 2. Too much sugar in your diet.
I make a deliberate effort to have a zero sugar intake, and I'm turbo psycho Nazi Schizo hostile toward high fructose corn sweetener (start another thread, as I am on a one man crusade to eliminate that poison drug from America). I do read labels on the very few (less than 10 percent) foods which I buy in any sort of container. Either of those two ingredients is an instant disqualification.
But hey, thanks for the feedback. You have confirmed my conviction on stuff to keep out of my life.
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