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OriginalGriff wrote: Is reincarnation making a comeback?
You'll have to let me know, next life.
Marc
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Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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One Buddhist might say: "as long as it takes;" another: "as long as you don't give;" another might giggle and hit you over the head with whatever was handy; and so forth and so on ?
«When I consider my brief span of life, swallowed up in an eternity before and after, the little space I fill, and even can see, engulfed in the infinite immensity of spaces of which I am ignorant, and which know me not, I am frightened, and am astonished at being here rather than there; for there is no reason why here rather than there, now rather than then.» Blaise Pascal
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Or they might enter a burger joint, and ask them to make them one with everything... 
The old jokes are the best.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Is just showing me the splash screen and nothing else ... and the app doesn't appear in the Task Manager apps list, so I can't easily kill it... 
[edit]But it's process did! And died![/edit]
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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processes -> devenv.exe -> kill!
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Yeah - I just thought it funny that everyone seems to be complaining about VS2017, and 2013 decided to misbehave for the first time...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Until a couple of days ago I had VS2010, VS2013, VS2015 and VS2017, but the other day removed VS2010 and VS2015. Never really used VS2015 and hadn't used VS2010 in several years but downloaded VS2017 a few days ago and it seems pretty stable so I started using it as my primary IDE. The only reason I stayed with VS213 is that I had wrote a ToDoManager extension and come to rely on it heavily and VS2013 was the last IDE that I could install it on. I have looked high and low for a replacement with same functionality but haven't found anything like it. I id download out own dan.g's ToDoList the other day and am kicking the tires and it's almost a fit but there are some features I miss.
C'est la vie
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
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I've got 13, 15, and 17 installed on this PC, and like you didn't really use 15 that much - I installed it for Xamarin support, but ran out of time to get proficient with it so I stuck to 13.
I'll probably move to 17 over the next few months.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Ditto on the 15 thing, I was looking at doing some Xamarin stuff also but then got off doing an embedded poc and got hooked on learning Angular.
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
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Should I be embarrassed that I still use VS 2008, and my web sites run the 3.5 framework?
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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Not at all - it means that your products are compatible with a larger number of systems.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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How's VS 2008 connected to the number of systems your code can be used with?
As for the Framework version, this once was true for .Net 1, then for .Net 2 - Best of luck when trying to install any of these, not even talking about writing code for them in todays day and age.
Mind you, "Legacy" tells about as much about usability as saying that you're using the latest and greatest stuff, to relate my opinion.
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I don't think the later versions have done much to make the code itself any better; it's more about the infrastructure for how you code.
Mind you, it would be extremely satisfying to reply to a bug with: "Works on my (win'95) machine".
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: I don't think the later versions have done much to make the code itself any better;
An IDE is not supposed to affect code quality - Tools as for example Resharper are, but they still remain tools. In the end it remains the dev's responsibility to produce as good code as possible, given the time frame he has.
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So now actions (install/update/delete) are scheduled for extensions, and executed only when you shut down VS... But now you have to close all the instances immediately to let the scheduled process to finish...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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From the sound of all this trouble with VS2017, I'm thinking I ought to go back to writing my code in pencil and mailing it to people.
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Spend a week with Eclipse, and you'll be overjoyed to return to VS, no matter how bad it is.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I'm actually using Eclipse (neon.2) for PHP at work... It works perfectly for that...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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My last was Luna, and before that, Indigo -- for Java and C 
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I am just waiting for the Vim-kidz to enter the scene... 
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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One reason to go back to XP is that it still had edlin*.
* Of course, that depends on your level of masochism
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Or, I can do my coding on one of my OpenVMS systems and FTP the files over...
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Spend a week with Eclipse
A week? Five minutes is sufficient.
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