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FYI: HDMI 1.2+ cables have a data channel in addition to A/V for Consumer Electronic Control features.
If you're not using a 4k set you might be able to find an old HDMI 1.1 somewhere (which has audio support, but not data). Just saying, that'd protect you from a CIA Roku hijack, and hopefully will help feed the paranoia.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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Actually, the CIA is never my worry. NSA has been aware of my existence for decades (I even visited their non-existent DC Headquarters).
It's ROKU I'd be most worried about.
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Actually - now I'm afraid. What if the CIA hacked the ROKU and made me only able to watch "Happy Days" !
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No no, all wrong. The CIA needs things like SmartTVs. The NSA just knows. They just use quantum matrix resolvers that contain a record of all things that you have, are, and will say and do. They just need to open a record for it to coalesce into reality!
The only way to prevent that sort of surveillance is to only do things that you won't do, which then become things you will do and therefore are included in the predictive matrix, which means that you can't prevent it.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
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Even without connection, we already know what you watch on your big graphic display.
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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The camera in my bedroom? I know it's there. I make quite a tidy sum for allowing them to look in and gawk in admiration
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W∴ Balboos wrote: So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection.
Believe it or not, in the UK we actually have a TV programme dedicated to this very thing - Gogglebox - All 4 
It's difficult to see how TV can get much worse than watching people watching crap on their TV's..
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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Suddenly I realize: UK programs such as "Foyle's War" are for export-only.
. . . and they make you pay an annual fee to own a telly, too?
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W∴ Balboos wrote: and they make you pay an annual fee to own a telly, too?
You can own it for free, but you need to pay a "licence fee" to the BBC to watch anything (even if it's not on the BBC).
It's also a criminal offence to watch TV without a licence..^
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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Brent Jenkins wrote:
It's also a criminal offence to watch TV without a licence..
The "founding fathers" of the US - when breaking away from the UK - apparently showed even more insight than I realized.
Why does anyone stay ? ?
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Why does anyone stay ? ?
Can't afford to leave - spent everything on TV licences
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Why does anyone stay ? ?
For the National Health Service.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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We've got good beer and Morris dancing 
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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We've got better beer.
And NO Morris dancing!
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Because Pepsi, Dominos etc don't dictate what opinions we are allowed to express on our TV, or what themes our TV programs can cover. It always amuses me when Americans express incredulity at the license fee but don't understand just how much of what they watch is dictated from and controlled by Coca Cola and Pepsi.
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Beware of that double-edged sword!
Aside from our having PBS (no commercials, public donations support), the same problem with the likes of Pepsi and Dominoes deciding what to sponsor also means they'll cow-tow to the public's norms. Still no nipples and nudity (at least until late at night). Also, we've so many cable stations that whatever you want to see can be seen.
vs.
Your BBC is (de facto) completely government run - so you'll see what they want you to see and think what they want you to think. I doubt Brexit will clear that up very much.
Two glass houses - lots of stones. What would Putin say?
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Your argument is based on ignorance (both of the UK and also how much of US TV is controlled by corporations and to what extent) so there isn't any point in addressing it.
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F-ES Sitecore wrote: Your argument is based on ignorance
Mine . . . or apparently, yours?
Not only on how US-TV is run, but on what I do or do not know about UK-TV.
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The BBC definitely has it's own agenda that it pushes on everyone.. there's no way anyone can say it's an unbiased source of information.
Criticism of the BBC - Wikipedia
Not only that but outside of the UK the BBC acts as a commercial company already.
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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Cool story bro.
But Pepsi still don't dictate what we see on our TV.
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F-ES Sitecore wrote: Cool story bro.
Story? 
F-ES Sitecore wrote: But Pepsi still don't dictate what we see on our TV.
If it was Pepsi, then it's agenda would be obvious. I think that whoever is pulling strings at the BBC has a much wider agenda. I'm personally more worried about that than anything Pepsi could come up with. You should be too.
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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Wow, you really have no idea, do you? First off America's media has just as much left-wing bias as the BBC (look at the recent election coverage for example), but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the makers of TV programs not covering certain topics in their shows for fear of corporations withdrawing advertising. If Pepsi don't like the message your sitcom is giving then your sitcom drops those messages. If Visa don't want Mythbusters testing the security of contactless payments then Mythbusters don't test the security of contactless payments (*). What you see on mainstream shows is controlled by big corporations and their individual political agendas, you just don't know it.
* I know you're now going to google this and tell me that story isn't true as it was redacted by Adam Savage, but who is to say he didn't do that from the influence of their legal team and the proof of the pudding is that when they did finally look at contactless payments the security aspect of it was left out.
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F-ES Sitecore wrote: Wow, you really have no idea, do you?
I'm British, I do have an idea. I've lived and worked around the world so I'd suggest that you tone the arrogance down a notch or two.
F-ES Sitecore wrote: I'm talking about the makers of TV programs not covering certain topics in their shows for fear of corporations withdrawing advertising.
As opposed to media companies changing or suppressing news items that don't suit their agendas? That's happening every day here in the UK.
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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Sorry I didn't realise you're not even American but are arguing about how American TV is censored. Didn't realise the extent to which I was wasting my time.
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"Your BBC is (de facto) completely government run"
Up to a point, Lord Copper.
It's interesting that, despite the right wing Tory government apparently "running the BBC", Tories always accuse the BBC of left wing bias and anti-Tory sentiment. Conversely, the left see the BBC as having a bit of a right-wing spin and being pro-establishment. So it's probably about right in its even handedness.
The BBC is run by a board of trustees and has a board of governors. I'm sure the government of the day, whatever hue, would like to control it's output and propaganda, though.
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