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I have no legacy issues, when I switch to 2017 then everything switches to 2017. anyway, I planned to upgrade at the weekend but ![Beer | [beer]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif) .
veni bibi saltavi
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That's the easiest way... For me on the other hand it is a slower path, so I have it work side-by-side with 2015, 2010 and 2008...
The only issue I found so far, is the one with NuGet in 2015...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I've had a couple of weird issues:
- When I first open VS2017 (after install) and open my first solution, nothing is displayed in the solution explorer.
- When adding a default .NET Core class library to a default .NET Core ASP.NET project, I get a number of errors. Same when adding NuGet packages, it's like Visual Studio doesn't update it's references when building/analysing the code.
In both cases, closing and re-opening Visual Studio seems to clear the issues.
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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That's weird indeed...
I have none of these issues...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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The oddest thing is that it happened when I had VS2015 installed, so I completely re-installed the whole PC but it still did it again after that.
It might be down to some oddity on the PC - it's a Lenovo Thinkpad, about 18 months old. I'll see if it happens on the Dell Optiplex I've got.
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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No need to warn all of us. If your name was Graus, we all would be heading for a safe place now.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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"Sodium I have abbreviated follows a sheep's affirmative perhaps, as a technique for use with machine learning"
(5, 5)
modified 13-Mar-17 5:53am.
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Naive Bayes
Sodium - Na
I - I
Have, abbreviated - ve
Sheep - Ba
affirmative - yes
And, thanks to Google, I now know that Naive Bayes is a technique for machine learning.
Andy B
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Dang, beat me to it. Nice clue!
One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I don't know.
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Since last weekend, I'm an officially licensed / trained volunteer firefighter for the City / canton of Zug 
Feels really great - If anyone of you lacks physical strength and wants to gain some, become a volunteer firefighter. You're doing something good, and free excercise comes along with it.
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Congratulations!
That is an excellent way to spend your spare time helping others. 
(I'd be tempted, but I'm no good at heights at all: I get nervous in thick shoes...)
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: (I'd be tempted, but I'm no good at heights at all: I get nervous in thick shoes my high heels...)
FTFY
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OriginalGriff wrote: I'd be tempted, but I'm no good at heights at all
We do have some guys like that. But believe me, if you're called into action you will overcome that.
We had that one guy who would never go near a ladded during training. But as soon as sh*t got real he was as quick as a weasel to go up. And it was an alu ladder, not one of the nice stable truck-mounted ones. See here[^] (Note: Not actual footage).
Nevermind the fact we had to abseil him on his way down, but the way up was quick. Real quick.
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Well done. A very worthwhile achievement. Here in Australia volunteer firefighters (and other volunteers) save countless lives and much property every year while often putting themselves at great risk. True heroes.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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well done - just don't go starting fires so you can put them out (it does happen apparently, there's a small % of people who become volunteer firefighters because they are pyromaniacs)
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Garth J Lancaster wrote: well done - just don't go starting fires so you can put them out (it does happen apparently, there's a small % of people who become volunteer firefighters because they are pyromaniacs)
No worries, I won't - And here it's a rare case that things like that happen. We get enough to do without laying our own fires.
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Welcome to the fraternity. I've been a volunteer with the New South Wales Rural Fire Service for nigh on 15 years. Way too old and wise to jump on the back of a truck, so I work in Command/Communications. It is one of the most rewarding things I've ever done.
Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Thanks, Peter. It feels great, and certainly is a rewarding "hobby", even though it's for everyone of us more that just a hobby - It's a way of life.
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Serious question I've always wondered about: How do you manage emergencies during your work day? Being off call while at work would seem to leave a big hole in the duty roster between 8 and 5, while even if you work close to home being called out regularly seems overly disruptive in any but the most flexible of jobs.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I don't know how it works in Switzerland, but in Israel the (paid) fire brigade is large enough to handle most routine fires. Only when there is a bad outbreak of fires (e.g. towards the end of summer, when we sometimes have both very dry fields and strong winds) do they need to call up their reserves or volunteers.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Where I live in the US only the larger cities have full time fire depts, small towns and rural areas are covered by volunteers for any normal fire/traffic accident; with pros from the nearest city only showing up for support in really large fires (that are sucking in reinforcements from the surrounding area).
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Israel is more densely populated than (most of) the U.S., so fire departments are much closer to each other. I assume that is what makes having full-time fire departments an economically viable proposition.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Probably a major factor, the relative size of administrative districts could be a factor. A lot of the small town/rural municipalities (or whatever they're called) struggle to be able to fund even one police officer (or the equivalent share from a partnership with a few surrounding communities), so multiple full time firemen needed to have a single engine available 24/7 are totally out of the question. (If they don't have any cops the State Police will cover major crimes, but petty issues are extremely low on their priority list and they don't enforce municipal ordinances at all.)
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I work 30 minutes from the FD main depot, thus I take on the night shifts.
Events are classified in 3 different levels - small, middle, big (30, 80, 160 people). Those who have the day shifts have a supportive employer - Mind you that we don't get called out too often, many things (ambulances, for example, or smaller oil spills) are being handled by professional paramedics or towing companies. We're just here for the greater stuff. Apart from that, many employers here are very supportive towards volunteer firefighting, especially since it is a way to keep a good employee.
Also I'm just a simple soldier: The higherups do have their own schedule, and have weeks when their on active duty - But since they're enough they can easily split it up between each other, so each gets their work done.
As for how it works here in CH, about 99% are volunteers, and only really big cities such as Berne and Zurich do have a full-time fire dept.
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