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The OP mentioned "the idiots on the road". I assume he's referring to those who aren't allowed to take coffee breaks during working hours, because they need retraining when they come back. 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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CDP1802 wrote: How do they survive without ever actually learning how to drive on snow and ice?
Having lived in ice and snow, Northern Ontario and Southern Ontario, for most of my life, I've driven in these conditions.
You can readily drive on snow without too many problems. On ice however, you tend to just slide... so, whether to drive or not depends on what is being received.
If the conditions will lead to ice: freezing rain, sleet, snow with sub-freezing temperature and above freezing ground/road temperature - opt for safety and stay off the road.
Living in South Carolina, we are frequently told "You can drive in this.. go and get something for me." Well, I CAN drive in snow.. but ice is just asking for an accident.
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I see that the same way. here we have such things at least once or twice every winter. I got my license in summer and the first winter was... problematic. I went to a driver's training for snow and ice and never had any problem ever since. When I get the opportunity, I go to an empty parking lot when the first snow comes and see wether I need some new tires or not.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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I have fond memories from my youth about taking advantage of an empty parking lot coated with fresh powder to "test" my snow driving abilities in a rear-wheel-drive car built in 1979. I remember being able to fish-tail the back end up to about 60 degrees and still recover, hehehe  .
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Or a 180 degree turn on a small 'road' laid out with cardboard boxes, without knocking any boxes over. The instructor at that training I mentioned showed us how to do these. With his 'worthless and underpowered' Mercedes.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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... and even when it is just snow, while you can safely drive in it most of the other people trying to drive somewhere are inexperienced enough that they're at least as dangerous as the drunks trying to get home after beer o'clock friday night is over and the bars all close.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Been a roller coaster year, we've had wild azaleas blooming a month early and all this week cool again. My son just planted his garden last week and getting down to 33 Wednesday night then back up to almost 80 end of week. Crazy!
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
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While Vs 2017 seems to be a good upgrade, first try to install it on a separate machine...
Installing it side-by-side with 2015 will cause a bit problem with NuGet version, and will force you to update it to be able to continue with your work...
If you already hit this wall, the update you are looking for is here: NuGet Gallery | Home[^]
If you are still before and planning to install Cordova, check that PowerShell 3.0 istalled... from here: Download Windows Management Framework 3.0 from Official Microsoft Download Center[^]
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I have no legacy issues, when I switch to 2017 then everything switches to 2017. anyway, I planned to upgrade at the weekend but ![Beer | [beer]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif) .
veni bibi saltavi
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That's the easiest way... For me on the other hand it is a slower path, so I have it work side-by-side with 2015, 2010 and 2008...
The only issue I found so far, is the one with NuGet in 2015...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I've had a couple of weird issues:
- When I first open VS2017 (after install) and open my first solution, nothing is displayed in the solution explorer.
- When adding a default .NET Core class library to a default .NET Core ASP.NET project, I get a number of errors. Same when adding NuGet packages, it's like Visual Studio doesn't update it's references when building/analysing the code.
In both cases, closing and re-opening Visual Studio seems to clear the issues.
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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That's weird indeed...
I have none of these issues...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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The oddest thing is that it happened when I had VS2015 installed, so I completely re-installed the whole PC but it still did it again after that.
It might be down to some oddity on the PC - it's a Lenovo Thinkpad, about 18 months old. I'll see if it happens on the Dell Optiplex I've got.
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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No need to warn all of us. If your name was Graus, we all would be heading for a safe place now.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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"Sodium I have abbreviated follows a sheep's affirmative perhaps, as a technique for use with machine learning"
(5, 5)
modified 13-Mar-17 5:53am.
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Naive Bayes
Sodium - Na
I - I
Have, abbreviated - ve
Sheep - Ba
affirmative - yes
And, thanks to Google, I now know that Naive Bayes is a technique for machine learning.
Andy B
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Dang, beat me to it. Nice clue!
One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I don't know.
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Since last weekend, I'm an officially licensed / trained volunteer firefighter for the City / canton of Zug 
Feels really great - If anyone of you lacks physical strength and wants to gain some, become a volunteer firefighter. You're doing something good, and free excercise comes along with it.
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Congratulations!
That is an excellent way to spend your spare time helping others. 
(I'd be tempted, but I'm no good at heights at all: I get nervous in thick shoes...)
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: (I'd be tempted, but I'm no good at heights at all: I get nervous in thick shoes my high heels...)
FTFY
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OriginalGriff wrote: I'd be tempted, but I'm no good at heights at all
We do have some guys like that. But believe me, if you're called into action you will overcome that.
We had that one guy who would never go near a ladded during training. But as soon as sh*t got real he was as quick as a weasel to go up. And it was an alu ladder, not one of the nice stable truck-mounted ones. See here[^] (Note: Not actual footage).
Nevermind the fact we had to abseil him on his way down, but the way up was quick. Real quick.
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Well done. A very worthwhile achievement. Here in Australia volunteer firefighters (and other volunteers) save countless lives and much property every year while often putting themselves at great risk. True heroes.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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well done - just don't go starting fires so you can put them out (it does happen apparently, there's a small % of people who become volunteer firefighters because they are pyromaniacs)
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Garth J Lancaster wrote: well done - just don't go starting fires so you can put them out (it does happen apparently, there's a small % of people who become volunteer firefighters because they are pyromaniacs)
No worries, I won't - And here it's a rare case that things like that happen. We get enough to do without laying our own fires.
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