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So Dell's just announced an 8K monitor - but it's only 32".
I currently use a 40" 4K TV on my desk as my primary monitor, and the individual pixels are smaller than the 1920x1200 24" monitor sitting next to it. At 40", I don't quite have to resize anything, but if they were any smaller, I'd probably have no choice but to resize everything (and I have better than 20/20 vision). I'm of the belief that resizing everything to 125% or 150% is a waste of pixels, since you're then allocating more of them to show the same content.
Everything being equal, I'd have to think if I didn't want to resize everything to 200% (or more), then an 8K display would need to be spread out on an 80" surface or so. This 32" Dell monitor seems like a complete waste to me.
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I've wondered this every time I see a laptop with a high resolution and the screen's 14 or 15". I can never see anything. And I have 20/20.
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Nish Nishant wrote: And I have 20/20.
Well that's your problem, you'll need 4k/4k vision to see it.
Jeremy Falcon
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I'd like to see a picture of your setup. And do you put sunscreen on when you start work? 
Charlie Gilley
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“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Unlike most people, for years, I've been dropping the brightness on all my monitors all the way down to 0, and increasing the contrast to compensate.
This always horrifies the artsy-fartsy types as now my "color accuracy is completely shot" and "all the details are lost" and some-such BS. But I'm writing code on this thing, rendered in black, on a light-grey background (pure white for window backgrounds is evil). I'm not watching HD videos or editing high-color images that need to be printed.
I keep hearing from people with eyestrain and headaches and can't sit in front of a display more than a few hours each day. Usually it turns out they have their brightness cranked all the way to 100%. No wonder they feel like they've been staring at the sun. I can sit in front of my monitors for 8, 12, 16 hours a day with no eyestrain whatsoever.
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well just damn, I'm going to be coding all weekend, so I'm going to try this. What sort of ambient or office lighting do you have?
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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During the day, I close the blinds--the window is off to the side, so I get no reflection.
During the evening, if I turn on any light at all, it's just a very small LED desk lamp to illuminate the keyboard. Avoid bright lights. And, again, reflections on the screen.
It might take some getting used to--I don't know, I've been working like this for so long I don't remember much about the transition period.
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Think of it like this, as more and more devices support more and more higher res monitors, you won't always have one unit or point equal one pixel for instance, like back in the day. I haven't done any hardcore GDI work in a looooooooong time, but I'd wager if you have a high resolution because of the 8k display then these days Windows should in-fact scale it to use a higher ppi and thus not have everything so tiny since most apps don't attempt to circumvent the GDI API. The result will be a much, much clear image... much like a Retina display on a Mac.
If it's not automatic due to lack of monitor drivers, etc. then perhaps there's a way to set it manually (not sure yet).
It's a lot like printing at 300dpi when you have a 72ppi monitor, it looks smaller on print. If we had the monitor at 300ppi and the printer at 300dpi, they'd be the same size. So, same concept, just in reverse.
For those that haven't, 'tis yet another reason to upgrade from Windows XP.
Jeremy Falcon
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The higher res really does make reading easier and images crisper.
...as long as developers support high DPI.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Yup. And the sharpness lets you get away with smaller text/more stuff on screen if you want. I've got an XPS13 with an 280DPI screen. At 200% scaling (aka 140 DPI equivalent) text is legible farther from the screen than on my 100DPI desktop screens at 100% scaling.
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Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I can't say I've ever been convinced of the "readability" argument.
I use this display purely for coding. I can read it just fine. 3840x2160, with no resizing, lets me view the same content as a 2x2 grid of 4 1920x1080 monitors.
Resizing to 200% would simply mean I'd now be using 4 pixels at 4K to render what any 1080p display can render using 1 pixel. Rescaled 4K might be prettier and crisper, but I'm not going for "pretty". I'm going for more lines of code for the same surface area.
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dandy72 wrote: I can't say I've ever been convinced of the "readability" argument.
It's not about being convinced by an argument.
It's about whether it makes it better for you or not. It's purely a personal thing and no one can convince you otherwise. It either is or isn't.
For me, I find a retina screen far nicer to stare at. I'm sure others feel differently.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Well, I don't think it takes much work to prove it's true. Every time I look at my iPhone display and then at my work monitor that's still DVI, it's pretty darn obvious just how much better the higher res makes things. I swear it's even easier on the eyes.
Jeremy Falcon
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I just grew up at a time where characters were all rendered in an 8x8 grid, and that was perfectly readable at just about any size. To me, making the most of higher resolutions means having the opportunity to display more data, not using more pixels to make the same number of characters look prettier.
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I totally understand, but the world, well she's a changing.
Jeremy Falcon
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Sure, rescaling has its place. So long as I have the option not to rescale anything, I'm happy. My phone rescales at 150% by default and I leave that on, but that's only because 1280x720 is otherwise unreadable at 5".
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40 inch monitor?! And you can watch cash in the attic on it as well?
This is bad news. My 11 year old 30" monitor has always served to demonstrate my superiority over those around me with their lackluster 24" displays, and now I read of those with 40 inches. It's like yachts, someone always has a bigger one.
This won't do. I'm off to the shops...
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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It's not the size; it's what you can do with it.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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That's what people with monitor insecurities always say!
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Rob Philpott wrote: 40 inch monitor?!
TV, not monitor.
I bought it over a year ago, when $700 was still considered a phenomenal price for a 4K display of any size.
I got it on sale at $600 (an even better price), then if I purchased "some accessory" for it, then the store knocked off another $100. A 9$ cable qualified. So, before taxes, it cost me $509.
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Do you also use a 320/480p phone?  Higher DPIs make well written apps more legible on your computer too.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Nope, while it has two hands, it has no feet, and is slightly coo coo. 
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