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Aren't we arrogant ? 
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Hah! Takes me a couple of hours to setup Paintshop Pro each time I upgrade... 
Mind you, a lot of the blame there lies with Corel: They never consider where you had tool windows in the previous version. And when I think about it, Microsoft are just as arrogant with VS ... that takes far too long to get right as well. 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: Takes me a couple of hours to setup Paintshop Pro each time I upgrade
I know a trick for that, if you're happy with opening the registry.
What you do is:
0. Insert the corel upgrade-installation disc
1. Open the registry editor (winkey+R, "regedit")
2. Take the corel upgrade-installation disc out and bin it.
3. Close the registry editor.
Works perfectly for me, every time.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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What is this "disc" thing of which you speak?
I joined the twenty-first century some years ago and download upgrades.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Ah, but that makes it more complicated, because in place of item 2, you have to:
2a. Locate and download a file shredder, which overwrites all bytes with zeros at least twice
2b. Install the file shredder
2c. Run the file shredder on all corel upgrade-installation files
Things were much simpler, in the old days.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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OriginalGriff wrote: Microsoft are just as arrogant with VS ... that takes far too long to get right as well.
Just about every setting in VS is exportable to a file than can then be imported into another machine or into a newer version. I've been using such files since VS2008 and it's still saving me a lot of time getting my editor, code formatting, window layout preferences and such every time I set up a new development VM.
Better yet, you can export/import subsets of such settings - one file strictly for window layouts, another for code formatting settings, etc.
Or are you talking about something else altogether?
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No, exactly that - but I didn't know you could do that. And if you can, then why the elephant doesn't MS do exactly that automatically when you install a new version? That's actually more annoying than not having the facility at all!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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The trouble with importing settings for any ms app is that they often decide that things have to work differently, so you end up with things freezing, giving unexpected results (which you may or may not notice), and shouting "Warning, Will Robinson! Warning! Warning!" for no apparent reason.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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If Microsoft software did shout "Warning, Will Robinson! Warning! Warning!" at least we'd get some warning it was about to scramble your files and play a game of scrabble with the results... 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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YMMV then. All I know is that I first created 3 or 4 separate settings files to group them logically, and reused the same files in VS2008, 2010, 2012, 2013 and 2015. As far as I can tell, they never caused freezes or even warnings (and even if they did, the import process is a one-time operation).
I get far more problems using versions of VS that were upgraded in-place (something I've stopped doing altogether), than just bringing these exported settings files (which ultimately are just XML if I recall correctly) on new clean dev VMs whenever a new version of VS comes out.
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I'm - regularly - at the office four days a week, so for years the company used my computer to quickly set up new ones by duplicating the disk...
Once upon a time the technician mixed the disks and ruined mine by overwriting it with an empty one - on that occasion I took my time to re-install the environment... 8 days (two working weeks)... No one ever since touched my computer in my absence... 
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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It takes me at least two man-weeks, spread over a month or so, before everything is how I need it.
And windows says that everyone has to "upgrade" to winio -- how many billions will that waste?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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It's a bit uncanny he'd know how long it take me to set up a new box.
QUESTION! QUESTION! QUESTION!
Scott Adams is a cartoonist - where does he get his info about those of us in real life?
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Via the DSA (Dogbert Snooping Authority), of course!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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I spent mine doing this https://s28.postimg.org/hwgum8bkt/learning.png[^]
Don't I feel more wise going back to work tomorrow.
Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf *
Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.
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Hunkered down in our cabin in the deep snow mountain forest of Colorado.
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I respect you for studying. I should be doing the same! I had worked 55 straight days on a project, the last being Saturday the 24th; so I have just been taking it easy. My sports team got destroyed last night, so it's been a heavy dose of You Tube since.
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That's a boatload of stuff you've finished.
I went out on a number of day trips with my wife. Several scenic drives to mountains, beaches, wildlife parks, etc.
I'm inspired by your post, and I'm going to start reading up and may be watch some pluralsight videos today. 
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I spent my holidays chasing my grand kids around the pool, the beach and the garden. Taking them to various places and having an excellent time with them.
I actually enjoyed my holidays, you have my sympathies but unless you got out and enjoyed yourself I would hardly call that a holiday.
Then again if you are a lonely single with no local family to spend it with I can understand using the time to expand your skills. I remember those day as well, they were not enjoyable.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I enjoyed learning as wife had a job during holidays and I had whole day for myself so instead of playing games I just tuned myself to do some training.
Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf *
Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.
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Single with no family FeelsBadMan Spent it with friends in similar circumstances; glad to hear you had a good time I spent my free time working on an article which should be proofread soon
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I remember the first few Christmases after I left home, bloody lonely times.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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What site is that? Seems awesome. Squeezed in some pods from codeblocks, not sure if its learning or entertainment but it something.
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Thanks, from the way you chewed threw quite a few in your original post that site seems quite captivating and I've been looking for something similar so thanks!
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