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I've noticed with several sites I have an account with that they no longer allow special characters in passwords. That seems like a move in the wrong direction. Special characters allow passwords to be more complex so I wonder why some are making this change.
Has anyone else noticed this?
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Yes and I can't understand why - ASCII is ASCII is ASCII after all - and I hate it as elephant.
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in that case there still is EBCDIC[^].
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This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
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Sorry, I have written poorly: I mean that an ASCII character is equal to any other ASCII character for the purposes of both internationality and cryptography. Why A-Z is ok and $ is not?
I hate the sites that disallow "special" characters because they weaken security for... what, exactly?
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GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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My signature never felt better!
EBCDIC[^]
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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using gesture or swipe input on mobiles, too hard to do some of the specials
Sin tack ear lol
Pressing the "Any" key may be continuate
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Lopatir wrote: too hard to do some of the specials
That could be it. Still a dumb thing to do, in my opinion.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Typing passwords on mobile devices is the worst!
That's one of the big reasons I created C'Ya Pass so you never have to type a password again.
You can get the free Android version right now.
This really isn't spam. It's totally related. You can read my articles here where I formulated this new idea of generating passwords that are SHA256 hashes (probably as unhackable as a password could ever be).
You can also get the windows version of C'Ya Pass at my site: C'YaPass: F*orget All Your Passwords | Never Memorize A Password Again <br/> Never Type A Password Again <br/> Never Make Up A Password Again[^]
I'm really not trying to be spammy. You can read all about technology behind this here at CP in my articles.
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I just want Android to include a general, always available, "see password" option. Mine are nearly all English sentences or phrases, so it's more typing on a wee tiny touch screen and lots of chance of mistakes.
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Yeah, it's really difficult. You could type your password in a Note app copy and paste into the target I guess?
Thank goodness paste still works in password fields (most).
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Not a reason to remove them, just a reason to not make them mandatory.
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That just means you're not using the right keyboard[^] 
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No idea why you need special characters... I use 1234 everywhere...
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For many everything that comes after 3 already is a special character.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Even on your luggage?
Software Zen: delete this;
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That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard in my life! That's the kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage!
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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But we still use it on our corporate iPads now that a lock code is enforced as accessibility is more important than security for demo apps.
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actually, they've determined that the hackers can easily replicate shoving in those few extra special characters into their password generators and they only serve to make the passwords more difficult to remember for users.
The best information on passwords is that they should be :
1. much longer (my application generates 64 char passwords based upon the SHA256 hash)
2. not based upon words -- this protects from any kind of dictionary attack -- which basically all the hacker attacks which attempt to reverse passwords are based upon
I've just written an blog article on this recently (pulled from my blog) ==> How Hackers Crack Passwords (part 1)[^]
The paradigm shift that people can't get over with C'Ya Pass is that you never have to memorize a password again and they aren't stored anywhere. They're generated every time for your use.
I apologize if this sounded a bit like gratuitous self promotion, but I'm really passionate about this whole (stupid) password thing. Passwords are terrible.
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raddevus wrote: more difficult to remember for users.
That's fine. So, don't make it required. My problem is they are preventing you from using a special character.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Oh, very good point.
That's ridiculous that they don't allow it. What?
I use my app exclusively for my own passwords and I'm always annoyed when sites tell me that I have to use a special char, because with my app my passwords now look like:
1. cf82bb8b015707c5cef11942b88bb058d3795f4dcae551e65ea72891333a1384
2. ea50612a6d5dde56c7a826cc03317e99c2f2f5547b0bd0b5e985ac27883b8242
Those are extremely strong because they are long and not based upon words.
Those silly password checkers will say they are of medium complexity.
 The industry has a lot to learn.
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raddevus wrote: Those silly password checkers will say they are of medium complexity.
Ya, sure. I was only off by one character when I tried to guess your password. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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You have the fantastic ability of generating SHA256 hashes completely from memory. 
There are only more of them than there are stars in the universe so it's easy.
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raddevus wrote: There are only more of them than there are stars in the universe so it's easy
Ya, I needed a challenge after I counted all the stars. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: Ya, I needed a challenge after I counted all the stars
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Dont s'pose you changed your surname by deed-poll at marriage and that your wife has a father-in-law called Chuck, does she?
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