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C++ was used to teach Object Oriented programming in a University Class I took in Computer Science back in the late 80's. I found it was easy enough to pick up if well presented. I was able to get things to work and that is a big plus. Modern tools are even better than the ones I used then. It also offers Multiple Inheritance which is also a major concept of OO, but also quite a complication if combined with Polymorphism at the same time. If you want an easier language to learn, then I would suggest C# since you can get a good free IDE from Microsoft for that.
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Classes do not exist. Good design does.
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...and if it ends with a newline, it is no longer the last line. 
Go figure! 
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lol, correct. The part that had me lost was VS2008 helping me.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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In my opinion... every code file should begin and end with a blank line. I don't recall any version of VS hindering that.
modified 22-Nov-16 13:12pm.
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Why? Whitespace at the beginning and end of the file are immaterial to the compiler.
Wait a sec. Let me guess. You produce listings by doing this:
COPY *.CPP LPT1: don't you? 
Software Zen: delete this;
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Maaaybe...  That's "documentation".
Historical reasons, old editors that loaded slowly, typing before it was ready.
And you know I like whitespace.
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I was copying a large amount of files from one drive to a USB flash drive on a Windows 7 box. I selected all the folders and files, copied and pasted to the target drive. The system gave me an estimate of 23 hours to finish the copying. At the point when roughly 80% was done I had to leave so I decided to cancel it at that point.
Later when I was back I wanted to continue the copying. I was lazy so I selected all the folders and files again (even though 80% of them were already copied), copied and pasted to the target drive. I expected to see a message box showing "there is already a file with the same name in this location", and I would utilize the GREAT improvement MS had made over XP that I could just select "Don't copy" and "Do this for the next xxx conflicts" so the rest of the files would be copied. Instead, I was greeted by this message: "There is not enough space on xxx. You need an additional 22.0 GB to copy these files", with a "Try Again" button and a "Cancel" button.
I think they should give the users another button "Try to copy anyway" so they can copy as much as they can. In my case the free space is large enough to hold the rest of the not-yet copied files! Besides, sometimes people want to stuff as many files as they can on a drive. All my files are small ones, the remaining space is not big enough for all the files selected, but it can hold thousands of these small files.
modified 17-Jan-17 9:42am.
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That's the first step toward AI rule...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Looks like you made the same mistake that many of us made: you expected windows to get better, not worse.
Anything that isn't a security update, and that has been checked to contain nothing but security updates, should be ignored.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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loyal ginger wrote: "There is not enough space on xxx. You need an additional 22.0 GB to copy these files", with a "Try Again" button and a "Cancel" button.
Use TeraCopy for Microsoft Windows - Code Sector[^].
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Beat me to it. 
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: Beat me to it.
I like it so much I have bought a couple of licenses for it.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Great software! I use it at work where I have tons of files to copy (that is our versioning system, zips on a server).
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Since I got a NAS, I had to move a bunch of GB into it...
I've found that the best way to do it is using FTP (FileZilla in my case).
In case any failure happens you can see it into the summary at the end and you can restart it at will, pause, overwrite rules...
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Each of those is something slightly different from the next: Do you use React? Do you use Angular? Do you want something fully featured like both of those, but you don't want to use either? Do you just want a CSS framework like Bootstrap, but don't like the look of Bootstrap?
It's true that there is a lot of noise out there, and for the developer who's just looking to get stuff done it can be unfriendly to say the least. I enjoy the wild west aspect of it, though. I got started late in my development career, so I never directly experienced "The Bubble" and all the tech-splosion that accompanied it, so I'm having fun with this stuff. 
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Vark111 wrote: so I'm having fun with this stuff.
Yes, and I think you just hit on the problem. While it's great to have fun with all this stuff, let's say you're starting a web development effort (I'm not, thankfully) and you need to evaluate these so-called technologies, and as you mentioned, the underlying frameworks (React, Angular, etc), and decide the course of the pretty much the lifetime of the site, which could be years.
So, there's a difference between the "having fun" free-for-all and the "what poison pill will I swallow" in a professional setting. Oh wait, silly me. Web development isn't professional.  I should know that by now, given the Django/Rails experiences I've had.
Marc
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Me like.
That one actually looked quite good, and is on the top of my list to look at further.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: How did we get into this proliferated mess of options
By making it easy to make toolkits.
Bear in mind that the most common definition of "toolkit" (particularly the web variety) is "repository for frameworks/libraries/etc that have been made by people who know what they're doing".
They're like anthology books, compiled by people who can't write, but can only make stories written by others available.
Marc Clifton wrote: Do any of these stand out as head-and-shoulders superior to the rest?
Some anthology books do actually have well-written intros/links between the stories, rather than just mindless, poorly thought out waffle.
If the intros/links are as interesting to read as the stories, then it's a good 'un.
Marc Clifton wrote: How can you even tell?
Don't look at the promises about how you can do A and B because this framework or that library is incorporated; look at How they're incorporated, and how well the infrastructure is written.
Unfortunately, the most common "how well" is pretty abysmally.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I don't have any answers, but the W3C just upstreamed the shadow dom to dom standard earlier this month. It's been around since at least 2011, but looks like something that can build a more robust web component environment where you can mix and match UI or other components without breaking things. When I looked at it earlier this year, it was just too complex to implement, but as soon as support becomes more uniform, it could be great.
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Hi Marc,
Just my 2 cents for your questions
1. We got into this mess since nothing is perfect and can be bettered. Inevitably a javascript toolkit/framework will have its shortcoming, people will jump on the opportunity to fix it (albeit by spinning up a new framework).
Look ma we have this new! thing that fixes the problems of that other framework. And oh btw it introduces a diff kinds of problems (which will be fixed by some other toolkit). Angular 1 -> Angular 2 -> Angular 3 React Aurelia you name it
2. If you want to believe a salesman then you have just the perfect toolkit for all your requirements. Now coming back to reality you have evaluate the frameworks purported claims against your own requirements. I would recommend having a grid listing at least your top level requirements  and checking off against the diff frameworks. Then pick the one which you can swallow with least difficulty. 
3. No, one can't tell if they've not used at least couple of them. I would really like to find someone who has dipped their fingers in majority of them and take their advice too. Anyone?
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My wife and I have been married for 12 years. On Saturday, I finally met some of her family member (uncle, aunt, cousins, etc.) for the first time. There had been family gatherings, but I wasn't able to attend due to work commitments.
Well, on Sunday, my wife's uncle had a stroke and is now in the hospital.
We don't know what tomorrow holds; if you have someone you should contact, take the time to do it today.
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